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2006-03-11 16:32
Oswald

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 5086
How low one can get #2

Making money by stepping on the ppls back that made demos for free, for the scene ?

http://home.ngi.de/digitalmemories/buy.html

if you charge no more than DVD and postal costs I take my words back. Otherwise.....
 
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2006-03-14 15:10
Oswald

Registered: Apr 2002
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a, the dvd has about 16 demos recorded into video.

b, if you download the disk images this takes about 5 meg.

c, this is not a tremendous archive

b, if I spend _LONG_ months of work to entertain the scene for FREE, why is it ok for someone else to ask money for collecting that free work ?

Do you really DONT SEE thats there's no difference in doing a demo and doing a dvd ? If I would spread my demos on a DVD it would be okay for asking money for it, if I spread it on the net it is not okay?

You're falling in the trap thinking, that if someone's work is in a REAL material, it is ok ask money for, and if someone's work is just a file on the net, then it should be no money asked for.
2006-03-14 15:24
Trazan

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 620
Wtf is this? Some retard defending the right to sell C64 demos?

COOOL!

2006-03-14 15:46
drake
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Registered: Dec 2002
Posts: 207
thank God, everything on csdb is still for free :)
2006-03-14 16:50
chatGPZ

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11360
now upload it already, where are those firstie-sceners when you need them?
2006-03-14 18:57
Hein

Registered: Apr 2004
Posts: 946
BERT, where are you man? Stop feeding your pigeons, Ernie is selling crack to these youngsters, you have to stop him.
2006-03-15 12:48
tecM0

Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 40
Quote: hein, yeah while the MUCH more work of the original authors worths 0 euros...

one DVD is MAX 2 euro, and postal cost 1 euro max,

they earn atleast 7 on each.

whish I could live on someone else's work for free.


what a bullshit treat! osw&co. ... your all dont know how expensive it is to make a prof. DVD. so..STFU please. this is damn stupid.
2006-03-15 13:01
Oswald

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 5086
tecmo, lighten us up
2006-03-15 18:11
Nemezis
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Posts: 22
I do strongly believe that contents of this DVD are NOT copyrighted and can be spreaded and copied by anyone ? Probably it is not possible to have copyrights to something that was created with use of materials without permission of authors.
I just wonder if creators of this DVD realise, that some ppl from C64 scene are now lawyers..? :)
2006-03-15 20:37
Oswald

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 5086
wikipedia:

United Kingdom copyright methodology

British law states that an individual's work is placed under copyright law as soon as it leaves that person's mind and is placed in some physical form, be it a painting, a musical work written in manuscript or an architectural schematic.

Australian Copyright Law

Typically, a work must meet minimal standards of originality in order to qualify for copyright, and the copyright expires after a set period of time

USA Copyright Law

In the United States, copyright has relatively recently been made automatic, which has had the effect of making it more like a property right. Thus, as with property, a copyright need not be granted or obtained through official registration with the government.


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Several exclusive rights typically attach to the holder of a copyright:

* to produce copies or reproductions of the work and to sell those copies (including, typically, electronic copies)

Hungarian law says that the author has copyright on his creation in the moment he created it. (automagicaly)

and it is not possible for the author to gave up his copyright.



2006-03-15 20:49
Nemezis
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Let's say that someone has an early, amator records of Pink Floyd, which were spreaded as not commercial, for friends and fans. I think he CAN NOT release and sell it as commercial CD without author's agreement. OR, if he sells it only taking costs of making copies, this stuff is still not copyrighted. This is what I was thinkig about writing upper message. I think that they can not put "copyright" on these DVDs.
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