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2003-07-12 11:22
Merman

Registered: Dec 2002
Posts: 140
Transparent votes?

There's been a lot of "discussion" in the one-liner box about whether voting should be transparent, i.e. you can see who voted (and their vote's value).

I feel that things should stay as they are, just the number of votes and "weighted" vote shown for each entry. That would save all the arguments "why did you vote low for me?" or "he/she is a lamer, they voted low for me/my release"

What do others think?
 
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2003-07-18 06:22
Yodelking

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 189
Quote: It would be great to click on a CSDB user and see a list of all his votes, descending. It's interesting to see what an individual scener likes..

I agree. Would be a nice feature.
2003-07-18 07:05
Slator

Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 274
Do you want to have my credit card number too?
Maybe I want to see your girlfriends naked.

This goes a bit too far, call your local fbi dealer to get info about a person. This is a database and no secret service dossier collector.

There really is NO point in doing a feature where you can see all votes by one person.

2003-07-18 07:35
Yodelking

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 189
Quote: Do you want to have my credit card number too?
Maybe I want to see your girlfriends naked.

This goes a bit too far, call your local fbi dealer to get info about a person. This is a database and no secret service dossier collector.

There really is NO point in doing a feature where you can see all votes by one person.



Well, if a person votes high for a musician that I like, then it would be fun to see what else he likes. That might help me find more nice musicians. Same goes for demos. I don't watch many demos, but if someone voted high for a demo that I like it might help me find other ones that I like.

2003-07-18 08:12
Derision

Registered: Feb 2002
Posts: 69
I am not for displaying the votes outright. Transparency is one thing; listing people's votes in an easy to read spreadsheet format is something completely different.

I hear what you're saying, though. I think it could best be served as a separate feature, outside of the whole transparent voting thing. It might actually be cool to impliment; sort of a "If you like THIS demo, check out these..." sort of thing. Of course, clicking on that would take you to a list of demos that would be in some way similar to the one you were just looking at. If that makes sense to anyone except me.

Anyway... yeah. That's my story.
2003-07-18 09:56
iopop

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 317
Why not remove all info on what groups the sceners have been in and replace that with what they vote for instead? Add a voter of the month chart?

Seriously, maybe its just me, but I thought the main idea of this site was get an information database, not a pouet copy?
2003-07-18 17:20
Derision

Registered: Feb 2002
Posts: 69
Quote: Why not remove all info on what groups the sceners have been in and replace that with what they vote for instead? Add a voter of the month chart?

Seriously, maybe its just me, but I thought the main idea of this site was get an information database, not a pouet copy?


CSDb has the capacity to be a lot more than a simple database... and it's already gone beyond the definition of a simple information storage site by having the votes and news posts and whatnot.
2003-08-18 10:18
Slator

Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 274
The system like it is now is a big pile of shit. Until there is no real solution for the stuff we are talking about for some time now.

It is a good thing to see who actually is man/woman enough to show the handle while voting, it still doesnt prevent the shitheads doing crap.

Expose the whole system or turn it off. Those shitty influence of lamers downvoting for fun has to be wiped out.

Users who are not connected to the scene (e.g. fakehandles) should be excluded from voting.

turn it off or do it real

2003-08-18 15:05
Perff
Administrator

Posts: 1679
hmm..

Well. I now made a function that tries to identify fake-votes and remove them when calculating the rating.

Therefor all the charts have now changed a bit and most of the ratings have grown.

Check it out and see if it looks ok.
2004-02-21 09:21
Mermaid

Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 338
Slator wrote: "Expose the whole system or turn it off. Those shitty influence of lamers downvoting for fun has to be wiped out."

I agree with Slator..Transparency or no voting at all.
2004-02-21 13:32
Twoflower

Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 434
Yep,

I believe in transparency. All the way. I agree with Mermaid and Slator and I can't see no meaning with transparent voting. And second - I see this majorly as an information database and not something which will be a bad Pouet-clone. Let's stick to facts and open opinions.
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