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Oswald
Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 5127 |
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"Adam summed things up nicely and now another pointless thread about voting at CSDb comes to a close.
(read: Things aren't going to change)"
I am tired too about that topic, but just because *you* dont like it, its no reason to close it. This moderator function is abused way too much. |
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Moloch
Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 2972 |
Quoting ChristopherJamSurely leaving the topic open would result in fewer threads?
nah, all of the previous threads aren't closed |
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rail slave
Registered: Feb 2016
Posts: 22 |
Just playing Devil's advocate here.
In the greater scheme of things, my little troll(s) votes average on a 3 or 4 ..never a 1
giving a lot of room for improvement (which is true).
As previously stated I think it's possible to get a 10 from one of these people, that obviously wish better things from us.
I have a feeling if this was a 5 point system, those would translate to a 3.
(if it is full on abuse, why not just name and shame ? ) |
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11523 |
Quote:my little troll(s) votes average on a 3 or 4 ..never a 1
fun fact: those would often be more efficient "downvotes" than 1s :=) |
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cadaver
Registered: Feb 2002
Posts: 1163 |
What if the voting algorithm was replaced with a straight average? Would it result in throwing the charts in an unholy mess? :) |
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hedning
Registered: Mar 2009
Posts: 4808 |
Quote: What if the voting algorithm was replaced with a straight average? Would it result in throwing the charts in an unholy mess? :)
That is something I guess only Perff can answer. :) |
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11523 |
it should just show the median value, instead of first computing the median, and then try to "correct" the votes in some totally broken way :=) |
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ChristopherJam
Registered: Aug 2004
Posts: 1424 |
Nah, interquartile mean :) |
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Rastah Bar
Account closed
Registered: Oct 2012
Posts: 336 |
Maybe this should be a compo ;-)
Like this:
Everybody can propose an algorithm. Then an iterative method is used to decide the winner: the algorithm that ranks highest according to the current CSDB algorithm is used to evaluate all entries again. If a different algorithm then has the most points, the evaluation is repeated with that one, etc., until it converges. If it does not converge, I'm afraid we'll be stuck with the current algorithm. |
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Oswald
Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 5127 |
wat? |
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Mr.Ammo
Account closed
Registered: Oct 2002
Posts: 228 |
Quoting Color BarMaybe this should be a compo ;-)
Like this:
Everybody can propose an algorithm. Then an iterative method is used to decide the winner: the algorithm that ranks highest according to the current CSDB algorithm is used to evaluate all entries again. If a different algorithm then has the most points, the evaluation is repeated with that one, etc., until it converges. If it does not converge, I'm afraid we'll be stuck with the current algorithm.
Why not look at the data:
This is how the official results of the non-standard time signature music compo compares to the results based on all votes on CSDb. In the second table the result is based on the real mean and in third table the result is based on the the super duper secret weighted average that CSDb uses.Official results:
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1. Monofail by LMan (9.08)
2. OdDnB by Jammer (9.00)
3. Slipper by Saul Cross (8.46)
4. Plarp by Mermaid (8.42)
5. AfD Kaputt Schlagen - TOT by Spider Jerusalem (8.17)
6. In Ruhe 1 Abseilen by Spider Jerusalem (7.67)
7. Gypsophila by Saul Cross (7.62)
8. Harder Times by Mibri (7.58)
(based on 13 voters using a google sheets vote sheet)
Results based on the avarage of all votes:
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Rank Title / Entry # Votes Real Mean
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1 Monofail 33 9.67
2 OdDnB 35 9.54
3 Slipper 9 9.33
4 Plarp! 16 9.00
5 AfD Kaputt Schlagen - TOT 14 9.00
6 Harder Times 10 8.90
7 In Ruhe 1 Abseilen 8 8.75
8 Gypsophila 14 8.50
Results based on CSDb weighted average:
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Rank Title / Entry # Votes CSDb Mean
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1 Monofail 33 9.70
2 OdDnB 35 9.60
3 Slipper 9 9.40
4 AfD Kaputt Schlagen - TOT 14 9.10
5 Plarp! 16 9.00
6 Gypsophila 14 8.90
7 Harder Times 10 8.80
8 In Ruhe 1 Abseilen 8 8.70
Seems like the 13 voters are representative for the average CSDb voter. Only rank 6, 7 and 8 seem to differ in order. |
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