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Tim
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Registered: Mar 2002
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goattracker instruments and/or .sng files
hi all..
I was wondering if anyone was willing to share their sounds and/or .sng files for goattracker?
So far I've only finished one tune using goattracker, my x2006 entry "One Flu over the X2006", but so far I am enjoying this tracker now that i've gotten more used to it.
However.. I am clueless and helpless when it comes to creating sounds, and since it has the option for inserting sounds by loading, I was hoping for some help from you guys..
I was hoping to make a nice melodic and slow sid, however with the standard .sng files that come with the player I can't seem to find any really smoothish or gentle sounds.. (well, not unless you count 'gliding' the sounds.. but that was not was I was trying to do)
ehm.. if this sound totally weird.. as example the sounds in the first 2 minutes of "summer heat" by Dwayne Bakewell (which is a dmc 4.0 if i'm not mistaken) are a good example of what I would be looking for.
but anything softish/smoothish/whistly would do..
(sigh.. I hope someone understands what i mean here)
and besides that, ANY other sounds or sng files would be greatly appreciated.
Cheers
Tim
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Style
Registered: Jun 2004
Posts: 498 |
perhaps what is needed is a tutorial for instrument construction. Once you understand it, you could make your own soft/mellow instruments.
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
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isnt "soft" mostly about using long/slow attack and sinus-like (ie triangle) wave? thats what i would do anyway =) |
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Tim
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@style:
Hmm.. yes and no..
People have tried to teach me in the past, but it seams like I simply can't remember or just get frustrated at the complexity :(
Some years back someone gave me a whole diska+b of sounds to use in dmc 5.0.. but.. that editor did not have the keyboard function that I loved so much in dmc 1.2 and later dmc 4.0.. so long story short.. I made one sid, took me 4 weeks to do and sounded like crap.. the last I ever did was in dmc 4.0 in 1998.
Then I discovered goattracker.. perfect.. It had the tracker format.. no more endless timing problems with snd.00 dur.04 c-0, snd.01 dur.02 c-0 etc.etc. because its a tracker and basically an answer to my prayers..
It works on my laptop.. its tracker based.. it has the option to load samples.. perfect..
So I did a little comeback sid in this editor, released that on the x-2006, and was actually quite happy with the result although it still is more or less just playing around a bit with some effects to learn the player.. but of course the sounds were taken from a demo song for which I am very grateful!
I have always loved to make sids and mostly just for the fun of it.. you can check my hvsc directory, its almost empty.. that doesnt mean I never did more, I have some 40 or 50 sids which I simply never finished or released.. but I had tons of fun making them :)
I am quite sure that if there were sample disks available for goattracker also a lot more people would be sidding for the fun of it.. seriously.. take this example: I can easily count numerous friends or acquaintances that at one point owned an amiga 500 and at some point or another used pro-tracker without even knowing there was a scene on amiga just for the fun of it.
So.. why not create a basic pack of sounds for goattracker?
It would make me very happy :) and possibly a lot of wannabe sidders too that just dont understand how to make the sounds (or dont have the patience, or simply are not that musical)
Ah ehm.. sorry.. just realized that I have been typing way to much :)
Hope you understand my dilemma?
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
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you pretty much sound like i felt when i looked at a sid editor (future composer =D) long time ago... but really, you should take your time to create sounds from scratch, IMHO. (after doing it myself, i dont think its that terribly hard anyway) |
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Tim
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hehe.. you'd think that after using future composer, romuzak, dmc 1.2, dmc 4.0, dmc 5.0 and goattracker that I would have learnt by now eh?
sigh.. |
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Bamu®
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The funny thing is that there are ENDLESS possibilities of creating instruments. So, a tutorial probably wouldn't help.
Anyway, I have tons of saved *.ins files (about 230), but I'm not sure if I should share them with others. :)
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Hein
Registered: Apr 2004
Posts: 954 |
Creating a tune from scratch, including the instruments you need helps building experience in both using the pattern editor and the instrument editor. |
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Turtle
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Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 70 |
Hey, composition is only one part that makes a tune distinctable. The other part is the set of instruments. I think that your tunes can even be more 'Bordeaux-esque'. So take your time to create your own original instruments. |
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Stryyker
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 468 |
If you really want the sounds DJB used in the nice tune Summer Heat then load it up in DMC 4 (at least one version will work with it) and check out the tables and ADSR info. It shouldn't be too hard to get working in GT. |
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Tim
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@Nata
Some of your songs that I would be interested in are Evolution_303 and Metal Crack for the hypah sounds and Sweet Dominique for the waves sound in the beginning of the track.
I would appreciate if you would want to share them, but of course I respect anyone not wanting to share their sounds.
@Hein
Obviously true Hein.. but I am not classically trained. I only had 4 years of music school during the age of 6 to 10.. so the struggle of actually composing something from scratch is tremendously tough. Also the lack of any talent does not help (I never excelled in anything but just did everything from cracking to coding to sids to graphics to megaswapping to.. well, anything that was fun and in one way or the other helpful to my groups).
I keep ending up making nice little jingles of 30 to 40 seconds and am left clueless on how to turn these bits of sid into a tune, let alone think of attempting to create a specific sound.
When I think back of my old amiga 500 it was so much easier and I actually made quite some nice tunes using samples. I still curse the two days that (a) a virus destroyed my a500 disks and (b) my ex-girlfriend in a jealous rage destroyed the only cassette tape that I had of my old mod files :(
@Turtle
Oh your so true.. for instance I fell in love with PVCFs sounds from Radio Napalm probably the main reason why I love the 8580 actually :). My head spun in thousands of directions and ideas to use those effects. I used them in a few of my tracks and actually old friend Eco modified them a bit for me.
After my first attempts, the most complex thing I ever tried to do was a tune for AEG who had asked me to make something special for a trackmo some years back. I had worked months on it, but after loosing the disk with some 8+ minutes version of the sid that I was working on I got so pissed and abandoned the whole idea. (also read reaction to hein.. composing without having knowledge of skills takes such tremendous amounts of time).
So I guess you are right.. you all are for that matter.. but all I wanted was a standard set of instruments to make some average tunes.. I seriously doubt Id ever be good enough to create unique pieces of work Im afraid.
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