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2002-06-03 19:58
Ninja

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Commercial games in CSDB

Is it just me wondering why all the commercial games are being added to CSDB? I wouldn't call "Firebird" a scene-group...
 
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2002-06-04 06:39
MacGyver
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I think games and game-companies belong to the database aswell. Remember games was one of the items making the C64 so successful. Still, we need a better system to handle various versions (cracks) of the same game done by different groups. This was suggested before.

Templates is what Strykker means - we still all wait for them. Come on, Kilroy!
2002-06-04 08:06
Ninja

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Come on, I never said game-companies were not part of the C64-history. Still, I think they do not belong to a *scene*-database. Cracks are OK, but even there I just would like to see credits belonging to the crack not to the game. A different database might do the games-job (as there are some already on the net).
2002-06-04 11:04
chatGPZ

Registered: Dec 2001
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err what? "firebird" added as group ?!?! wtf ?!?! thats simply _out_of_the_question_ ... IMHO. ridiculous hahaha lol. (then again, i have seen "manfred trenz" listed as scene coder somewhere else aswell... rotfl)
2002-06-04 11:19
CyberBrain
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Ï also saw "activision" as a scene group!! what what whaaaat!?!?
2002-06-04 18:08
MacGyver
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For some reason it seems to be in the nature of many C64-sceners that they only shows interest and respect to "crackers" of a game, never to the people creating it. So who are more responsible for a released game...? Strange IMHO.
2002-06-04 18:34
Celtic
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The issue is that this is a scene database, not a games database, we've got plenty for that on the web. it is not about creators of games or anything..

celtic
2002-06-04 20:32
Ninja

Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 411
so, will there be some action to remove such stuff or at least stop adding it?
2002-06-04 20:44
Celtic
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that decision is nott up to me, but the maintainers. and secondly i wonder what matt (the guy who has been adding all this stuff has to say about it)
2002-08-10 10:58
Seven

Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 202
my guess is that it was just an easy thing to add... just like lots of people add productions without credits or anything (or at least used to, dont know if its still the case), adding the name of a game or game company is just that... easy...

of course we all know why MacGyver (or any other Protovision guy) thinks that companies belong in here aswell =)

other scene groups like X-Ample in fact DID work on games (and still do, even if on different platforms now), and that kind of information clearly belongs here imo.

people like Ben Daglish etc. need to be added to give proper music credits to demos... why Manfred Trenz was added... I have no idea...
2002-08-10 18:39
Mermaid

Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 338
In the case of Ben Daglish (Ben) he actually did some (Compunet) demos together with Antony Crowther (Ratt) back in the old days, so he belongs in the CSDB anyway because of that, right?

Thalamus, however, does NOT belong here, it wasn't even a game developer group but a game publisher, for crying out loud...!
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