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2009-05-13 09:56
Fredrik
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Vice or CCS64

Witch of them two programs do you use, if you want to play demos on you pc?
I have tried them both and the sound is more accurate in Vice than in CCS64.
Do you think the same?
Do Vice have another "sidgenerator" that the CCS64?

(And of couse, the real 64 is the best way to look at demos)


 
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2009-05-21 19:03
chatGPZ

Registered: Dec 2001
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I'd like to have auto warp mode switching on autostart optional.


it will be, no worries =)

2009-05-21 19:12
Stainless Steel

Registered: Mar 2003
Posts: 966
I've been using vice (sometimes up to 5 instances at a time)in all different kinds of monitor configurations
and screenmodes under windows and linux for years. Never had a problem with it crashing on me nor closing itself (ok, fullscreen mode is a little bitchy).

What pisses me of though is that the windows version wont render on the secondary monitor, while the linux version will.

Also a "stretch to fit windowsize" would be cool (fuck aspect ratio, i want SDI all over the screen)





2009-05-21 19:27
chatGPZ

Registered: Dec 2001
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the first is beeing addressed right now :) and the other should already work by enabling hardware scaling and then maximizing the window (in linux anyways, dont know about windows)
2009-07-07 16:07
NecroPolo

Registered: Jun 2009
Posts: 231
I use VICE because it seems to be more accurate for me than CCSC64. It was a great tool to test my old SIDs and find the reason for occassional bugs.
2009-07-07 16:17
Merman

Registered: Dec 2002
Posts: 140
I tend to use VICE most of the time.

One thing I would like to see is a "recent files" option in the File menu.
2009-07-07 17:09
kenchis

Registered: Jan 2008
Posts: 65
Quote: Witch of them two programs do you use, if you want to play demos on you pc?
I have tried them both and the sound is more accurate in Vice than in CCS64.
Do you think the same?
Do Vice have another "sidgenerator" that the CCS64?

(And of couse, the real 64 is the best way to look at demos)




Vice 2.1 uses sidplay-residfp which is in fact the best sound emulation of the SID 6581 available as open source.
In earlier versions it used the resid engine of sidplay2.

I dont know what CCS use, because it is closed source.
If you wanna know more about theory or to download, go to this homepage:
http://www.bel.fi/~alankila/c64-sw/

As an alternative there is a java version available ;-)

Searching for a SID player, that fits your needs?
http://jsidplay2.sourceforge.net/jsidplay2.jnlp
2009-07-07 17:16
doynax
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Posts: 212
I tend to use VICE as well, and mostly because of its monitor. No doubt it's got its fair share of bugs and inconveniences, zeropage watchpoints still aren't enabled by default for one thing and the drivecode debugging is severely limited, and I'll be the first to admit that the interface itself is clumsy at best (thought you get used to it, I suppose.)
Nevertheless with a bug fix or two it's still light-years ahead of anything else, all thing considered.

Sure, I'll buy that data entry is easier in CCS/AR, but just the existence of symbolic labels in VICE to help figure out what address to actually change ought to make up for that five times over. Not to mention the other invaluable debugging features such as data breakpoints, backtracking and replays.
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