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2005-10-25 00:56
Nafcom

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 588
Implement http://ftp.pokefinder.org/ into CSDb

Implement http://ftp.pokefinder.org/ into CSDb for alternative download link search!
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2005-11-03 19:52
Seven

Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 202
I thought tlr was talking about readding the meta-information to the database, not the files. Readding the files would be kind of nonsense since, once the files have been exported for the FTP, it'd be pretty easy to simply add the download links to the FTP with the same naming scheme used for exporting the files in the first place.

And while I don't know about the files, I know for sure that there's backups of the CSDb database and screenshots.
2005-11-03 21:22
Perff
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Posts: 1679
Quote: As far as I know, there are no backups of the hosted files.

I can assure you there are backups of IT ALL.
Both code, database, screenshots and photos AND uploaded files.
The last backup of the uploaded files was about 500mb in tar.gz

The only thing not backed up is whatever external links points to. :)
2005-11-03 21:35
Nafcom

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 588
Quote: I can assure you there are backups of IT ALL.
Both code, database, screenshots and photos AND uploaded files.
The last backup of the uploaded files was about 500mb in tar.gz

The only thing not backed up is whatever external links points to. :)


OK, then my knowledge was old or wrong, sorry O:)
2005-11-03 21:39
Perff
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Quote: OK, then my knowledge was old or wrong, sorry O:)

Probably old. :)

When the upload file feature was first made, the files was uploaded to an external ftp-site to spare space on the server CSDb runs on. That however often went offline for long periods of time, so I found out that it was ok to use a bit more space on the same server as CSDb runs on, where the files are now stored. That makes it a bit easier to make a backup. :)
2005-11-03 22:06
Nafcom

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 588
Quote: Probably old. :)

When the upload file feature was first made, the files was uploaded to an external ftp-site to spare space on the server CSDb runs on. That however often went offline for long periods of time, so I found out that it was ok to use a bit more space on the same server as CSDb runs on, where the files are now stored. That makes it a bit easier to make a backup. :)


Another reason to encourage people to upload the files instead of only linking to external sources!
2005-11-05 12:27
Seven

Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 202
Quote: Another reason to encourage people to upload the files instead of only linking to external sources!

Why is that a reason to upload files to CSDb?
The only thing that show is that, if you want an FTP server to host the files, choose a reliable one.

You don't get it, do you? Doing a backup of an FTP site is the easiest you can get.. provided you have an FTP client and don't try downloading file by file with your Internet Exploder. And that way _anybody_ can make a backup, and not just Perff.

Why do I sometimes get the feeling that I'm talking to walls in here... 8r
2005-11-05 12:46
Nafcom

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 588
Quote: Why is that a reason to upload files to CSDb?
The only thing that show is that, if you want an FTP server to host the files, choose a reliable one.

You don't get it, do you? Doing a backup of an FTP site is the easiest you can get.. provided you have an FTP client and don't try downloading file by file with your Internet Exploder. And that way _anybody_ can make a backup, and not just Perff.

Why do I sometimes get the feeling that I'm talking to walls in here... 8r


I have a DVD full with backups of FTP servers, just for your information =)

But not everybody has backups of all FTPs and often there are also linked to other sources than FTPs, e.g. http sources. Often they change (perfect example OOO releases) and then they are lost, while files uploaded to CSDb never will be lost because:

a) They are now stored on CSDb server, no longer on another external server.

b) Perff has updates of all such hosted files!

--

I want to thank at this moment, to all the sceners that send me PMs and coorperate to get sources for releases added to CSDb.

I try to reply to all in a timely manner.

Other than that, feel free to email me if you need to send files.
2005-11-05 14:38
chatGPZ

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11384
the point is that file should be stored decentralized and redundant. if everything is at one place there is a good chance that at one point everything will get lost at once.

and ofcourse, downloading stuff from csdb is painful, while downloading from ftp is fast and easy.
2005-11-05 14:44
Nafcom

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 588
Quote: the point is that file should be stored decentralized and redundant. if everything is at one place there is a good chance that at one point everything will get lost at once.

and ofcourse, downloading stuff from csdb is painful, while downloading from ftp is fast and easy.


painful? It's only a few KBs per release and even if CSDb is in its very slow times, downloads anyway take only seconds because of small file sizes.

You must have been sarcastic here! :D

Apart from that, thanks for agreeing on the redundancy point! :)
2005-11-05 14:47
cba

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 935
Quote: painful? It's only a few KBs per release and even if CSDb is in its very slow times, downloads anyway take only seconds because of small file sizes.

You must have been sarcastic here! :D

Apart from that, thanks for agreeing on the redundancy point! :)


He means that downloading for example every demo from
Crest is very slow here !, doing it from a FTP server is
just way easier.

Niels
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