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2007-02-25 21:35
ptoing

Registered: Sep 2005
Posts: 271
VIC20, +4, C16 and so on

I think it would be nice to have all Commodore 8 bit machines on the CSDb, it might even generate more demos and stuff for the less common systems.
 
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2007-02-28 06:39
Oswald

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 5094
TDJ, no need to base your arguments on logics, as this is a matter of taste. Noone who is beside the idea said they want to see pc or amiga prods.

I think anyone who supports this, thinks in this category: any commodore 8bitter.

IMHO csdb and the c64 scene would be a much richer community with spreading our view. Can anyone bring up arguments against this ? Or its just a leftover narrowminded machine addiction from the eigthies ?

2007-02-28 08:07
Radiant

Registered: Sep 2004
Posts: 639
I see no harm in adding VIC20/C128/DTV releases to CSDb. For i.e. the Plus4 scene there are already vibrant community sites, but perhaps those releases should be welcome here as well. I mean, it's not as if the focus is going to shift from C64 to any other platform, given the machine's history...
2007-02-28 09:21
TDJ

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1879
Oswald, I would rather see PC and Amiga demos here than Vic20 stuff etc. Why would my preference for that be worth less than those of others?
2007-02-28 09:45
yago

Registered: May 2002
Posts: 333
stop trolling, tdj
we are talking 8bit here, if you are a pc-demo love, go to pouet
2007-02-28 09:58
TDJ

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1879
Quote: stop trolling, tdj
we are talking 8bit here, if you are a pc-demo love, go to pouet


And if you are a Vic20, +4, C16 and so on lover, fuck off as well.

*You* are talking 8 bit, I am talking scenes connected to the c64. That can be amiga and pc as well.
2007-02-28 10:08
Graham
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Registered: Dec 2002
Posts: 990
If you talk about VIC20 scene, you don't talk about a "scene connected to the 64" but you ARE talking about the 64 scene.
2007-02-28 10:12
TDJ

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1879
Quote: If you talk about VIC20 scene, you don't talk about a "scene connected to the 64" but you ARE talking about the 64 scene.

Not in my eyes, sorry. Just because it's the same people doesn't mean it's the same scene.

Also, to be clear: I'm not proposing to enter all amiga & pc demos ever made, just those made by c64 sceners. I for one would love to find out who did what on other platforms. And if the vic20 etc. stuff can be added, this should be done as well.
2007-02-28 10:42
Mace

Registered: May 2002
Posts: 1799
Quote: Not in my eyes, sorry. Just because it's the same people doesn't mean it's the same scene.

Also, to be clear: I'm not proposing to enter all amiga & pc demos ever made, just those made by c64 sceners. I for one would love to find out who did what on other platforms. And if the vic20 etc. stuff can be added, this should be done as well.


TJD, this would only shift the discussion to who's a scener and who's not.

For instance: are those Amiga demos made by C64 sceners or are the C64 demos made by Amiga sceners?

And what about Amiga/PC demos that are made by a group of persons, of which not all were active on C64?

I think it would be better to add a feature to have external releases attached to a scener. You can already add an external link, but then the release is still in the database.
For this Amiga/PC stuff, we'd need something to add external release links to a scener instead.
2007-02-28 11:01
ptoing

Registered: Sep 2005
Posts: 271
The outer-c64 links thing could be interessting, but I think it would at least need another page per scener, as in not displayed on the same page as the C64/whatever Commodore 8 bit stuff. Like "View other releases" or something.

As for the Vic20 Scene, IT IS the C64 Scene in effect, I agree with Graham there.
2007-02-28 11:09
TDJ

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1879
Quote: The outer-c64 links thing could be interessting, but I think it would at least need another page per scener, as in not displayed on the same page as the C64/whatever Commodore 8 bit stuff. Like "View other releases" or something.

As for the Vic20 Scene, IT IS the C64 Scene in effect, I agree with Graham there.


So I'm in the Vic20 scene as well? Cool ..
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