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2011-05-22 02:44
Martin Piper

Registered: Nov 2007
Posts: 722
Proposed rule change

I would like to propose a rule change. If an admin is involved in posting in a thread they are not allowed to use their admin powers to delete posts, issue warnings or lock threads. This would help stop the situations where an admin who loses an argument can abuse their powers to remove the posts they personally disagree with.
 
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2011-05-23 04:40
Martin Piper

Registered: Nov 2007
Posts: 722
I can think of one easy way the board code can be changed to put the rule into force. Any post by a moderator in a thread removes the admin flag for that user, unless the moderator ticks a box when posting that signifies the moderator is posting with their moderator hat on
In that case the post background changes colour to signify the moderator nature of the post. Such flagged moderator posts will obviously need to follow the rules.
2011-05-23 04:56
Martin Piper

Registered: Nov 2007
Posts: 722
By the way I don't think anyone has explicitly said deleting the posts was a good idea.
2011-05-23 07:38
enthusi

Registered: May 2004
Posts: 677
I think the mods (all mods) do a pretty reasonable job here and Im ok with errors on their side/site.
Also the only drawback _here_ is Stingray who posted i.e. something important in that very thread after 1 year delay beforehand. Next time he will find his thread hijacked (and not explicitly by mods).
People overreact all the time, so do mods on occasion. No harm done IMHO.
2011-05-23 10:42
Skate

Registered: Jul 2003
Posts: 494
Quoting Groepaz
look at some of the past "omg the evil nazi mods" threads and see how its always the same 5 people whining

always the same 5 people whining? it was my first time and i don't feel like whining, sorry. i've never complained about admin/moderators before. why did i open a thread on misjudgment this time? first, let's see what happened.

1) topic is closed.
2) (arguable) irrelevant messages are deleted.

don't you think there is an ordering mistake here? if you had deleted the irrelevant messages first, you didn't need to close that topic anyway, right? closing that topic was wrong. deleting messages afterwards was an even worse decision. i still think deleted messages are not off-topic, i was interested in the content, i have learned something new called cd-i etc. now the topic is closed and messages are deleted. worst possible scenerio if you ask me.

you can always say "moderator decides" but that doesn't change the bad moderation fact. and i'm not talking in general. i'm just referring this VIC-X topic case.

i had no urge to write this message until i've seen "its always the same 5 people whining" comment.
2011-05-23 12:07
Martin Piper

Registered: Nov 2007
Posts: 722
Me neither, my first time as well.
2011-05-23 12:16
Skate

Registered: Jul 2003
Posts: 494
I just noticed "Account closed" under Oswald's handle in the forum. Protest or wtf?
2011-05-23 12:59
Moloch

Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 2928
@Skate -> Temporary ban -> http://csdb.dk/forums/?roomid=7&topicid=84847#84892
2011-05-23 13:11
Skate

Registered: Jul 2003
Posts: 494
I thought Oswald closed his account (or asked admins to close) as a protest. But apparently story was different. :)
2011-05-23 13:38
Martin Piper

Registered: Nov 2007
Posts: 722
It is also time to put to rest the failed notion posted by The Communist that this is a "private site". It isn't private when you're accepting donations from members of the public. As someone who has donated quite a large chunk of cash to help keep this site running I find it incredibly insulting that The Communist keeps on trying to claim otherwise. To "The Communist" you should listen to your members instead of trying to hide behind a smokescreen of misrepresentation.
2011-05-23 14:32
Achim
Account closed

Registered: Jan 2010
Posts: 28
Martin: It's not that easy. You can donate e.g. for the red cross, but that doesn't mean you can tell them how to work.

In general I think mods should act like watchmen. That's why Martins proposal sounds reasonable: If a mod joins a thread he shouldn't be able to act like an admin.


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