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2007-05-14 02:52

Adam The Axe
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The Scene as it was.

I was in The Scene, therefore, I know what went on in the C64 scene. I see TOP GROUPS listed over there on the side display and I see DD listed #2, okay, I can buy alittle of that, Robin was a good dude, but there was only 1 number UNO in all of the C64 scene... and as much as I hate to admit, it was ESI, ONLY. Far and away, this group did more for C64 than any group, ever. Fairlight and Red Sector were a close second but not even close to Eaglesoft.

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2007-05-18 08:10

Mermaid

Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 338

Hello, I'm an old ex scener who just stumbled across this site and don't know anything about what happened the last 20 years and additionally, let's face it, what happened in Europe at all.

Now let me spend several posts whining about the charts on this site instead of trying to figure out what happened in the scene in the 20 years after I left, because only the first 5-6 years matter, we all know this. Demos, let's face it, are useless, you can't like, play them with your joystick, most of them don't even have a copy protection, and they are just what people did because they had nothing to crack. The only reason NTSC demos suck is because WE had better things to do, ie. crack games.

As for European software houses they didn't release games, to say that they did is just plain lies and evil revisionism. If they had released games, they most certainly wouldn't be worth cracking, only US companies released good games. Why you would want to play Giana Sisters when you could play Spelunker is beyond me. And that Barbarian game from Palace is just a ripoff of the vastly superior game Death Sword from Epyx.

Also, Compunet did not exist and they certainly did not do demos independently of the cracking scene. The cracking scene is the real scene, but only until the point where I stopped being a part of it, because after that it like died, man. Now allow me drop some names to show that I was leet back then and thus have a right to poop on your so called "scene".

The scene died in 1988. History ended in 1988. I WAS THERE MAN! OMFG! The Berlin wall is still there and Ronald Reagan is going to save your butts from communism! YOUR MOTHERS WERE HAMSTERS AND YOUR FATHERS SMELLED OF LLAMASOFT GAMES, BITCHES!

All this, of course, translates to one simple thing; I need a hug.

2007-05-18 08:18

Fungus

Registered: Sep 2002
Posts: 680

Vanja : ROTFLMAO!!!

2007-05-18 08:28

icon

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 90

@Vanja: I can still hear the "phiioonnggggg" from the arrow hitting the bullseye. Some of the best answares ever... :-)

2007-05-18 09:15

TDJ

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1879

Quote: @Vanja: I can still hear the "phiioonnggggg" from the arrow hitting the bullseye. Some of the best answares ever... :-)

Oh, the answer rocks alright, but alas, I don't think it matters: people like Adam will never understand that the scene didn't die when they left. No matter how much evidence you have that it didn't.

Also, it kind of occurred to me that it's always somebody from the states who has this outlook on our scene. Dropping in, almost demanding respect for stuff he or his peers did way back when dinosaurs still roamed the earth, and then leaving again if it doesn't happen, we've seen it many times before.

I say: it's about time some European dude from the early scene comes by and does the same .. EQUAL RIGHTS FOR ALL GODDAMIT!

2007-05-18 09:31

CreaMD

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 3053

Quote: Oh, the answer rocks alright, but alas, I don't think it matters: people like Adam will never understand that the scene didn't die when they left. No matter how much evidence you have that it didn't.

Also, it kind of occurred to me that it's always somebody from the states who has this outlook on our scene. Dropping in, almost demanding respect for stuff he or his peers did way back when dinosaurs still roamed the earth, and then leaving again if it doesn't happen, we've seen it many times before.

I say: it's about time some European dude from the early scene comes by and does the same .. EQUAL RIGHTS FOR ALL GODDAMIT!

You forgot the past debates with e.g. Radar.

Vanja, excellent style and humour ;-)

2007-05-18 09:45

TDJ

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1879

Quote: You forgot the past debates with e.g. Radar.

Vanja, excellent style and humour ;-)

That's different, Radar was never part of the original scene, he was just delusional :)

2007-05-18 09:50

Mermaid

Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 338

Dude, what have you been smoking. There WERE no early European sceners, all you liberal pinko euros had tapedrives instead of diskdrives until Ronald liberated your continent from Soviet rule, just like we saved your asses in WW2 *and* WW1 *and* Iraq, OMFG. DAMN RIGHT, SHOW ME SOME RESPECT, BITCH

2007-05-18 09:55

TDJ

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1879

Quote: Dude, what have you been smoking. There WERE no early European sceners, all you liberal pinko euros had tapedrives instead of diskdrives until Ronald liberated your continent from Soviet rule, just like we saved your asses in WW2 *and* WW1 *and* Iraq, OMFG. DAMN RIGHT, SHOW ME SOME RESPECT, BITCH

....

I stand corrected :Z

2007-05-18 09:57

Mermaid

Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 338

2007-05-18 10:14

Shadow
Account closed

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 355

I guess Vanja has already expressed what most of us euro/demo sceners feel.

I'll just add that no matter how you put it - I really can't see how you can fail to see the importance of Crest?
They have released quality demos for almost 20 YEARS!
ESI was active for what, a couple of years? Without the demoscene the C64 would have been dead by 1991. So when you compare:
A) Pioneer cracking group. Active for a couple of years.
B) Quality demo group, helping keeping the scene alive for TWENTY years.

Atleast to me it's clear that B is the greater accomplishment and therefore deserving of the first spot.

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