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6R6
Registered: Feb 2002
Posts: 245 |
SDI 2.0 Beta
Hi.
A working preview here:
http://home.eunet.no/~ggallefo/sdi/
Report your bugs and thoughts here:
GRG |
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booker
Registered: Jul 2003
Posts: 334 |
LOAD/SAVE of the instrument could be somehow a nice feature. |
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Devia
Registered: Oct 2004
Posts: 401 |
as would a clear all, except instruments function.. aswell as a clear all function. |
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Stainless Steel
Registered: Mar 2003
Posts: 966 |
I second the last two points. Though i've asked glen about the instrument saving feature some time back, he said it would be a major pain in the ass to implement. |
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SIDWAVE
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Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 2238 |
Stainless: yes, because the various tables are shared by instruments. If you want to save instruments, you would need all those tables, pr instrument, means a lot more RAM use. |
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booker
Registered: Jul 2003
Posts: 334 |
Quote: Stainless: yes, because the various tables are shared by instruments. If you want to save instruments, you would need all those tables, pr instrument, means a lot more RAM use.
I guess that's the idea behind saving the instrument - you save the definition and bytes from the tables it uses. This feature was working nicely in DMC v5. I'm not sure what preciselly is the problem about a lot of extra RAM?
I guess, if you load an instrument then editor can tell you whether it already has same bytes from wv,pu,flt tables and let you choose to use those instead of adding it again. |
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Soren
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 547 |
Lazy poeople! The SID chip is VERY simple, it has very few registers to remember. Try to teach yourself to remember more or less how to do certain things. All it takes is some practise. To me it sounds a bit like some people need to be told how to wipe ass, EVERYTIME they've taken a dump, becasue they can't remember how to and have no manual for it :-) J/K ofcourse. And yes, it IS pain in the ass to code a "save single instrument" feature, unless you use some simple format where the same amount of bytes is used for each sound. :-)
Happy sound-programming people! :-) |
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robozz
Registered: Oct 2003
Posts: 43 |
Quote: as would a clear all, except instruments function.. aswell as a clear all function.
You don't need a clear all function, just load
the "EMPTY MEMORY..." file!
(or make up your own if that one doesn't suit you)
to clear only track/sequence data from a monitor:
f 3000 ceff 00
f 3000 3002 a0 00 f8
f 3800 3802 a0 00 f8
f 4000 4002 a0 00 f8
f 4800 4802 a0 00 f8
f ee00 ee7f 00
it goes without saying that doing it this way is a little risky, type wrong and you could wipe other stuff... :)
PS. I agree with Jeff about the save instrument feature. It isn't really necessary, just save the whole tune instead, that way you save not one but ALL the instuments in one go! |
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booker
Registered: Jul 2003
Posts: 334 |
Yeh, well. If saving the instrument is so much of a pain to do then better is to focus on fixing other stuff than adding a lousy feature :)
I still can't figure out why RETURN and SH+RETRUN do not work in subtunes (to put STOP / Jxxx) even though the subtunes were cleared. Bah. :) |
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Stainless Steel
Registered: Mar 2003
Posts: 966 |
Jeff, no offence - but not everyone has been designing sid instruments for the past 20 years.
If it comes to you as easy as "wiping your ass" then that's fine and dandy for you.
For the rest of us mere mortals its not just a matter of memorizing some simple values.
Designing a good sid instrument takes a deeper insight into how to make a proper pulseprogram, how to cleverly arrange those "simple" waveforms etc.
I've been trying to wrap my head around the whole matter for the past 3 years, and I feel like I havent made any substantial progress.
Not to speak of understanding what i'm actually doing.
So much for the "easy-as-wiping-one's-ass" part. I wont rule out the posibility that i'm just too thick to understand it though.
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SIDWAVE
Account closed
Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 2238 |
A good sound library, is part of any proper musicians arsenal.
For example, having 30 different basses, 50 snares etc.
Now Jeff will say, "Bah! preset lamer users!" - well, wrong.
Choosing the 'right' bass by loading it, and tweaking it later to fit completely, is ofcourse how it's done.
Also, a sound library, will enable more people to make music. Not all are sound creation wizards.
In 1986, Soundmonitor was a revolution to the demo scene, as a music editor, for 2 main reasons: 1) record with quantize, 2) save/load of single instruments.
Now Jeff will say: "Bah! all soundmonitor tunes use the same instruments!" - wrong! If you think this, you have to go listen 400 tunes again..
Well, I am able to make any sound i want, after many years of practise, and especially the last year, where i have used the editor every day, i learned a lot - so what do i care ?
Well, regardless that i can do what i want, i still think that building a sound library, is essential - so if we could get save/load of instruments, it will only be an improvement, and therefore we should do it.. |
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