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2007-01-09 19:39
Madman

Registered: Jan 2007
Posts: 34
New SID frontend released !!

Hello fellow C64 freaks!

I just wanted to let you know that there is a new SID frontend available to the public now. It has features no other SID tool offers since today:

* Support Sidplay2/w for playback
* Support TinySID for playback
* Easy access to the entire High Voltage Sid Collection
* Easy single-click interface
* Songlength database support
* Continuous play to discover SIDs unknown to you
* Playlist support with ability to add certain subsongs
* Experimental sid2midi support (sid2midi.exe not included)
* Built in search function
* Build on .NET framework 2.0 (required)

Steppe from HVSC suggested i shall promote it here. So did i. Hope you like it.

http://sidtool.drool.de/

Regards,
Madman
 
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2007-01-10 22:01
Madman

Registered: Jan 2007
Posts: 34
Im sad to hear that. Usually you only need that 1 file. I added a link to the site.
You still on Win95 or something ? You are the first having problems installing .net
2007-01-10 22:04
iAN CooG

Registered: May 2002
Posts: 3198
Quote: that .net framework thingy sucks. i don't have it installed and it seems like i need program x and y to install it. i gave it up, too much hassle. :-(

I quote Fanta about overall suckyness of the whole thing. Tested at work (no problem for me installing .NET 2.0 there)
and all I saw is a "different" front-end for Sidplay2/w which has even more song info (cltr-p for example). No point in having another UI for a program that already has one.
Deinstalled both sidtool and net2.0.
2007-01-11 08:44
Spinball

Registered: Sep 2002
Posts: 88
maybe you could add support for the vice commandline sidplayer. would be nice to use sidtool as gui for that one.
2007-01-11 09:11
Steppe

Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 1510
Man, that's really a great idea. I'd second that!
Ian Coog is kinda right, the Sidtool basically is a souped up frontend for Sidplay2/w, with presently not enough features to really stick out from the crowd of sidtools, i.e. it can't do much more than what other external programs already offer at this time (Sidbace, Sidbrowser, SidDB).

What I really like is the seamless songlength integration with the ability to just start continuous play in any directory (ah, let's see what this Fanta guy has to offer apart from his usual smash hits... ;-) ) and just let it doodle in the background.

The playlist feature is very intuitive to use, despite using a proprietary format.

Now with added search functionality (which, by all means, should be extended to search for AUTHOR or RELEASED field) and probably wider support of all kinds of players we're really getting somewhere. Keep it up, Madman!

I'm only asking for one thing: Don't make it too bloated and complex, adding things here and there, patchwork style (IIRC Sidbrowser heavily suffered from this). I really like the "lightweight" and cleaned up feeling of this program and would appreciate if it stayed like that. ;-)
2007-01-11 13:17
Madman

Registered: Jan 2007
Posts: 34
Its a frontend, as the topic stated. No more, no less :)
As with every software out there, some like it and some dont.
I dont like the sidplay2/w GUI for example. But anyway.

I will look into that Winvice thingy.

Oh and btw Steppe, the continuous Play also switches into the next directory on its own (if there is any)
So you could basically turn on continuous play and listen to the entire HVSC in one session. Unless you starve halfway through :)

Adding search for STIL info ? I have the STIL in RAM when needed since 0.7.5 but displaying the results in the way i do with search now could be difficulty. Will look into that too.
2007-01-11 18:22
Madman

Registered: Jan 2007
Posts: 34
Well the Winvice support works, only problem is, there is no option to start Winvice running the PSID tune with a certain subsong playing, so continuous play will not work with subtune support on winvice, also you may not be able to bookmark a subtune different then the default starting song.
Unless the workaround i have on my mind will work or there is another way telling winvice to play a SID (without using PSID) which i dont know about.
2007-01-11 19:37
Spinball

Registered: Sep 2002
Posts: 88
vice has build in sid playback "x64 -vsid filename.sid" but i have no idea how to change the subsong. Hoxs64 has build in sidplay too. And some guys claim it has the best 8510 emulation around.

p.s.: great you are working on vice integration
2007-01-11 19:49
Madman

Registered: Jan 2007
Posts: 34
Oh thanks a bunch for that Info. I used PSID to crate a PRG and then launch vice with that PRG.
The -vsid parameter is not listed in the commandline list.
Will check that out right now :-)
2007-01-12 10:30
Madman

Registered: Jan 2007
Posts: 34
Well, im done with Vice support.
(Edit: Means you can download that from the Website)
I suggest to set some settings in the options first.
By default i set vice to what i find in the Sid header.
(I hope i get the info right there)
2007-01-17 19:14
Madman

Registered: Jan 2007
Posts: 34
For your Info:

Beta 0.9.0 released.

‘Added advanced search to search the SID Header info
(as Steppe suggested)
‘Added PlayList sorting
‘Now using TinySID 0.996 Final
‘SIDPlay2/W default again for subsong support

http://sidtool.drool.de
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