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Conrad
Registered: Nov 2006
Posts: 849 |
Merge votes between multiple linked handles
For quite some time I was urging to start a topic on merging votes between multiple handles linked to each other, to give a more realistic rank for an actual scener, regardless on how many handles it used.
Seeing all the credits moved from RRFreelance to Robert Ramsay, yet currently seeing RRFreelance being ranked #2 as Graphican in the charts, just makes it all look broke and misleading.
So, time to debate... what do you think about merging votes? |
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hedning
Registered: Mar 2009
Posts: 4731 |
Quote: What Count said. What's stopping it?
Votes here are somehow really, really important for some users, with a obvious backside: Drama Galore and hurt feelings if someone votes lower than, like 8, sometimes 9.
In my opinion votes can be useful for top lists, but then again: people who don't think the top list reflect their own personal top lists are seriously downvoting top notch stuff to "get it right", which then provoke others to do the same, etc etc. That goes for scener votes too. People are downvoting others because of personal hate etc. It's like kindergarden.
The voting system only has one real function that works: CSDb online compos, and that is accidental. CSDb was not built to host these at all.
In my personal dream world I would get rid of the voting system. It creates too much drama, and the system is flawed. |
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TheRyk
Registered: Mar 2009
Posts: 2241 |
Quoting hedning...
The voting system only has one real function that works: CSDb online compos ...
Even that is debatable
Quoting hedning...
In my personal dream world I would get rid of the voting system. It creates too much drama, ... Like most mods I totally agree - once again like on any Groundhog Day
Would be great if torn dresses and exchange of well-known arguments are enough this time, it's always somewhat painful to see ppl freak out, ragequit and/or get banned because of that silly old topic, as the debate's so useless |
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Raistlin
Registered: Mar 2007
Posts: 680 |
Using the voting for online compos is weird too…
People will vote to make sure that their favourite entry wins a compo… but if all the entries in a compo are shit, you then end up with shit getting scores of “10” because one shitty entry is slightly less shit than all the other entries.
The regular voting is also borked.
Hell, what is a 10? For me, the old Crest demos, Light, Horizon, etc etc.. I’ll always prefer those to modern demos. Modern demos might be more polished … but we sit behind PCs with 1000s times more performance than we had in the 80s coding on Expert Cartridge etc…
So, yeah, the charts are all bullshit really.
But… if CSDb has no charts… it loses a lot too. Because the charts are an easy way to find awesome demos … like Memento Mori and Edge of Disgrace ;-) |
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Raistlin
Registered: Mar 2007
Posts: 680 |
Also… it would be possibly unfair on Robert Ramsay to vote based on the RRFreelance releases… he didn’t ask for these to be released, he simply put them on the web, in PNG format (not a native C64 executable format and therefore not a “release”) as a demonstration of methods, of his toolsets, etc… he didn’t want the images released, but someone else released them now, so it seems unfair that those images could drag his rating down.
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Hein
Registered: Apr 2004
Posts: 954 |
Charts have been part of the scene almost since the beginning. All of them have been biased and dramatic anyway, CSDb can be just as borked.
Btw, I tried upvoting Memento Mori, but it had no impact on the final result, *shrug*. |
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11384 |
So it seems the majority of the mods agree. So what IS stopping it? Kindergarden indeed :) |
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Hein
Registered: Apr 2004
Posts: 954 |
It will make a nice experiment to remove the voting system, but I fear the mods will loose their jobs, because this place becomes alot less exciting. |
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11384 |
It would remove a whole lot of drama, that's for sure. |
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Moloch
Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 2928 |
Quote: So it seems the majority of the mods agree. So what IS stopping it? Kindergarden indeed :)
Six mods agreed to remove votes ~2 years ago
We approached Perff
and nothing meaningful happened from that point forward
Sound familiar? |
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Joe
Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 229 |
If you remove votes, can my 52274 ones atleast count for, maybe an icecream,
a bottle of good whiskey or perhaps a ticket to Oslo.
I mean many Cooperations still have this value system, COOP, Hemköp,
ICA whathaveyou in Sweden. I want value ! :D |
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