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2009-10-26 19:47
grennouille

Registered: Jul 2008
Posts: 222
Just for curiosity

I wonder ... How do your families/friends consider your c64 love?

Personnaly I have 3 children and a girlfriend who see me like I'm an E.T. sometimes... My youngest son who is 5 years old sometime enjoys playing some of the 64 games but it don't take very long before he goes back to is Nintendo DS...

Sometimes, when a new flashy demo comes out here, I play it in Vice Full screen with speakers up and ask my girlfriend "Look ! Look ! Awesome what a 1mhz 64k computer can do! These coders are awesome! Don't you think? She replies : Of course.. Of course...

Do the people you love see you like an E.T. sometimes too?

Just curious and jobs boring so...
 
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2009-10-27 06:55
chatGPZ

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11350
20 years ago (wtf, i am old :/) i told my gf: 1st my friends 2nd my c64 3rd you - no problem ever since =P
2009-10-27 06:56
Frantic

Registered: Mar 2003
Posts: 1646
Best thread so far! Also known as "How to be a nerd - and live with it!" :)
2009-10-27 07:22
chatGPZ

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11350
oh and - i dont have friends that aren't, or atleast were, c64 owners either (and most of them are, or were, sceners). what could they possibly be worth anyway? =P
2009-10-27 08:21
Frantic

Registered: Mar 2003
Posts: 1646
@Groepaz: First I thought, regarding your previous post: "haha.. what a nerd". ...and then I realized that it is at least almost true for me too. :) At least if "friends" means people that you actually hang out with on a somewhat frequent basis.
2009-10-27 08:56
Ed

Registered: May 2004
Posts: 173
There is always one group of people telling me that the demos suck, that only a handful of the releases (generally more towards design, rather than code, dragons and stuff) look good. They are telling me basically that the C64 is not much cooler than their thrown away Nokia phone and that there is something oddly disturbing with people still using it.

This particular view have been very fruitful in deconstructing the scene and trying to interpret demos in another way (I wont say new or fresh, as this was what me and Joe did around early 2000s with Vandalism News and it is now nearly ten years later.) The same people saying this often don't find it strange buying the latest Disney movie or Sony Ericsson telephone with lots and lots of farting melodies and bleepy themes. There are exceptions to the rule of course.

Then there is always the other group of people that actually can see creativity for what it is and that there are some attributing values that keeps us here, with some more or less successful output. They take admire in the hard work we do such as for instance the struggle of making small effects on our platform which would have been far easier to produce in web-based environments. Nerdy or not.

Personally I use different computers every day, the one in the cell-phone, the one working while I write this, the one handling my money over the counter, etc. The whole notion of love of one single machine is perhaps a little bit simplifying the matter, just as it is pretty obvious there will be no simple answer to such a question you put, grennouille.

But no, I don't think I share your E.T Experience nowadays, but if you had asked me some 20 years ago, I would have said yes. :)
2009-10-27 09:12
chatGPZ

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11350
Quote:
At least if "friends" means people that you actually hang out with on a somewhat frequent basis.


ofcourse. i also have a very strict/narrow idea of who qualifies as "friend", and few people actually do that. (in psychology they say that if you think you have 20 or more friends, then you probably have none at all)
2009-10-27 13:34
NecroPolo

Registered: Jun 2009
Posts: 231
Funny thread :)

With relatives I don't have any problems with that, I'm lucky. Some good old friends still have their C64 too, and they seem to appreciate that I restarted my SID engines after a long pause.

My family and my lady... They have been picturing me like that, from the start: sitting before a computer and making something loud and heavy :) Besides, I pay much attention on disturbing others as little as possible. Back in the time before I started the studio I even mixed demos during the night at home, with family sleeping and no one had any problems with that.

The guys who think I totally lost my mind are some of the members of the young bands I work with (minus one decade) :) Some of them are fans of what I did in the last decade in the metal scene, or respect of what I did. It is hilarious to see the reactions of them sometimes, like that:

"hey Mikk what is that icon down there?"
"C64 emulator, that is."
"...whaaa...?"
"I started composing music with that 20 years ago."
"Fuck haha... Er... You REALLY must be kidding. You're a guitarist"
"Before that."
"Fuck no haha. C'mon show me somethnig, man!"
(load GMC, load tune, hit f1)
"...AHAahahahahaHAHAHAHAHHA you really musit be kidding ahahahah what a cling-kong phone tune ahahahaha... aha..., ha...! A...?!? Fuck wait!!!! Isn't that the song from...?"
"Yes it is."
"FUCK I was grown up on that shit in the '90s! But wasn't that a metal song of you...?"
"Years later it became that. This is the original form, from 1992. Everything started there."
"WOW... Fuuuuuuuuuuuu... Is that really made of all numbers and stuff? Woooo..."

I've always had an underground attitude so when even an underground metalhead considers my stuff to be underground that makes me happy :)
2009-10-27 13:56
Hate Bush

Registered: Jul 2002
Posts: 461
none of my close friends are/were c64 owners. i don't have a problem explaining the c64 scene activity to them, though. perhaps that's because they're all involved in sorts of nonprofit and absurd creativity.
2009-10-27 14:04
hevosenliha

Registered: Sep 2008
Posts: 48
I think this is very comparable to (for just an example) black/white photos...
"You know, color photos has been around for ages"
Still there are people who like black/white better for one or another reason.
2009-10-28 05:14
SIDWAVE
Account closed

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 2238
What is 'absurd creativity' ?
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