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drake
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Registered: Dec 2002
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scene activity
more and more i get the feeling that the my world (the scene) has become smaller and smaller. after a chat with the overkiller it was clear to me that the dutch scene isn't alive anymore and the italian scene either.
but what about the polish scene, the slovak scene and the german scene? how did the c64 survive through all the modern thinkings and technology?
sure as hell i bet the german scene survived because the pc-sceners adopted the c64 on their parties like mekka+symposium.....
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Oxidy
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Registered: Mar 2003
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Dwangi:
Perhaps the Swedish alcohol policy could be a factor, but it's hardly the main reason. The larger the distance, the more money is needed. The money issue and the trouble arranging the journey is in my view what keeps people from visiting parties far away. Not if they can buy beer in the local grocery store. (Or perhaps I'm wrong. Different sceners have different preferences.) If we flip things around I don't think any Swedish scener would visit Breakpoint just because they can buy alcohol a saturday at eight PM. Anyway, if I'm not mistaken there are some german sceners planning to visit LCP which is great! See you there!
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Steppe
Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 1510 |
Damn, who told you...?! ;-) |
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yago
Registered: May 2002
Posts: 333 |
Smalltown Boy wrote:
"Emulamer" is a nice term indeed, especially when it is used by people like Murdock, people who cannot prove their supremacy over more skilled sceners otherwise. You've just disappointed me, Zed Yago. I thought that talented people understand that it does not matter which tool (or environment) do you use, but what the effect is. Obviously I was wrong.
Maybe you do not understand emulamer as I do.
I also use PCs and Emulaters for writing my stuff, but I NEVER watch the final effort only on an Emulator.
There are People who try to watch fresh demos with an Emulator, instead the real thing, and this looks ugly most of the Time. (Not to mention the Sound)
However, this emulamer debate must be archived somewhere on csdb.
The Folks who have been pissed off by the retard term:
We are just making fun about ourselves.
There is truth, that the whole C64 scene is retard, thats why this term hurts.
The most retarded Things I ve seen were some Amiga-"Demos" which just consisted of a slideshow.
By insulting the "retards", maybe they improve.
If not it is also OK, we are there to create some new stuff, have fun, and talk to each other.
BTW, I would not even call Basicdemos retarded, if they have some funny Ideas included.
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fade
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Registered: Mar 2002
Posts: 290 |
and i quote..
The Folks who have been pissed off by the retard term:
We are just making fun about ourselves.
There is truth, that the whole C64 scene is retard, thats why this term hurts.
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says you hippie, smoke your banana peels elsewhere, if the c64 scene is retarded then it is because of the retards. The sooner we relocate these people to america, everything shall be playboy magazines and sideborder glenz vectors in realtime. |
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hollowman
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 474 |
ah yes, ofcourse to emulate or not to emulate and schoolboy-slators cokehabit is what this discussion is supposed to be about.
c64 isnt retarded by default, you can do whatever
you want on this machine, but for some reason
people prefer to follow in other peoples footsteps.
only thing that confuses me is why spain with its
easily available alcohol in stores doesnt have loads
of great c64 parties filled with foreigners
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Steppe
Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 1510 |
Guess that must be a climatic thing: People in Spain rather spend the day outside than sitting in front of the monitor. Maybe that's also the reason for the success of the C64 in Skandinavia/D/NL/GB...
It just leaves the question open why Greece is so Amstrad CPC dominated. %) |
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Slator
Registered: Jan 2002
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maybe we just close this shitty thread or rename it into flame and lame or something.
that cheap liquor thing is funny as hell...
a totally new view on the scene itself.
no booze no scene .-D
no place for "ex" alcoholics then...
anyways sorry for bothering as said like 108324972314823462378 times before, it's running outta bounds.
@hollowman: never underestimate the power of drugs and how a simple sentense can change you whole life.
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Hate Bush
Registered: Jul 2002
Posts: 461 |
> ah yes, ofcourse to emulate or not to emulate and
> schoolboy-slators cokehabit is what this discussion is
> supposed to be about.
Of course not. Bring it back on track by giving us a small lecture: "how to activate your national scene", as proposed by Hollowman, Swedish (like I said, Sweden is leading in both quality and quantity of C64 stuff released) elite member. |
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Mermaid
Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 338 |
What is it people hope to achieve by using the term "retard-scene"? Do you really think using words like that will make people improve their skills? Is that why you are so desperate to divide the scene into retards and non-retards? Or are you using the term just to make yourself feel better?
If you want people to improve their skills, do you really think throwing insults at them will help? I don't think so. Throwing insults at people is what you do if you want them to quit. You think a kid will be a great artist if he or she is constantly told that their drawings suck? The most likely scenario is that they will give up drawing.
How about some encouragement, some constructive criticism, lending a helping hand, giving out source code examples, writing an article on how to make better sounds in music program X, letting people share your pixeling-secrets?
Instead of getting on your high horse and calling others retards.
And yes Puterman, I know you have written that article about c64 demos (I am always giving out the url to people who want to start coding c64 demos), but that only makes me more disappointed to see you of all people using the term "retard scene". |
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cadaver
Registered: Feb 2002
Posts: 1160 |
Well, I find no conflict in Puterman speaking as he does and yet having written that article. I speak mainly for myself now, but I believe not until someone has spent quite an effort to write lengthy tutorial(s) and then see that it has largely gone to waste will the cynicism be fully developed. :)
Because once you do that kind of effort, you will see more clearly that on one extreme, there are people who are willing to learn, expend hard work, and find their own way pretty much without any tutorials, and on the other end are those who'd like everything spoonfed.
Of course that leaves a middle ground of people who might get a crucial "push" from some article, but at this time, I believe they are not many..
As for the "retard" term, it's a bit strong, yes, and I'd only use it myself because of someone's behaviour not productions, when it's clear that the person(s) in question are pretty much beyond hope. |
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