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2005-09-25 12:41
tlr

Registered: Sep 2003
Posts: 1790
Top list for added screen shots?

First of all, I respect that not everybody wants to take the time to add screenshots.
Personally I think it's nice to have them, even for text-tools and similar. I guess I'm a visual kind of person. :)
Anyway, to motivate people that are adding screenshots, could we have a top list of which people added the most screenshots on the statistics page?
 
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2005-09-26 10:30
Sledge

Registered: Sep 2003
Posts: 102
I agree totally. It's fun to contribute with stuff when you see that others do the same!
2005-09-26 11:47
HCL

Registered: Feb 2003
Posts: 728
I hate that points idea. It's exactly the same as counting who has added the most entries. Stopid people will start adding empty entries just to get sub-famous.

The same shit happened after this years LCP! I checked csdb on the following monday, and all demos were already added :), but totally empty :(.

So why count added void?
2005-09-26 12:43
Nafcom

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 588
Quote: I hate that points idea. It's exactly the same as counting who has added the most entries. Stopid people will start adding empty entries just to get sub-famous.

The same shit happened after this years LCP! I checked csdb on the following monday, and all demos were already added :), but totally empty :(.

So why count added void?


Exactly. Incomplete entries or entries with invalid information would raise in CSDb? :(
2005-09-26 12:46
Nafcom

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 588
Quote: I think people get a lot of motivation adding stuff to csdb when they see others do the same. I know I do.
As an example, today I added a bunch of Michael Winterberg stuff. Zyron obviously got inspired to fill in with what he'd got (which was basically everything :). I filled in his additions with screen shots.
Zyron may ofcourse disagree with my hypothesis, in which case I appologize. :)
I agree bad things can happen if everything is motivated by top lists, but I believe this has more to do with the culture around the particular site.
It seems that the csdb crowd is fairly homogenous and try to acheive the same goal which is building an accurate database, atleast in my vision.


Screenshots: There are hell lot entries who were created by people who have no idea how to make a screenshot. a tiny thing which is ugly and if you click to zoom it it gets more ugly, such people should get punished.
2005-09-26 12:57
Steppe

Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 1510
Death to screenshot mutilators, exactly!
I mean, really, what's the point in resizing the emulator screenshots to the thumbnail size?
2005-09-26 13:51
CyberBrain
Administrator

Posts: 392
Quote: Screenshots: There are hell lot entries who were created by people who have no idea how to make a screenshot. a tiny thing which is ugly and if you click to zoom it it gets more ugly, such people should get punished.

I think releases like that are mostly additions from beyond the birth of time, where CSDb only supported one screenshot size
2005-09-26 14:11
TDJ

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1879
Quote: I think releases like that are mostly additions from beyond the birth of time, where CSDb only supported one screenshot size

Yep - I know most of the Focus demos still have the 'small' size, because that was the only possibility back then.
2005-09-26 14:48
Steppe

Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 1510
Ok, I take back the death verdict in that case. ;-)
2005-09-26 16:08
tlr

Registered: Sep 2003
Posts: 1790
Quote: I hate that points idea. It's exactly the same as counting who has added the most entries. Stopid people will start adding empty entries just to get sub-famous.

The same shit happened after this years LCP! I checked csdb on the following monday, and all demos were already added :), but totally empty :(.

So why count added void?


Don't count the void. Count the content. e.g: the actual release binary, the screenshot etc...

One complication here is that csdb is used for two different purposes.
1. Contemporary releases.
2. Scene history.

I'm personally mostly interested in the scene history, although I enjoy the new stuff aswell.
I think number 2 will benefit the most from top lists, and with only a minor risk of people just adding stuff for points.
The stuff is already there just waiting to get added!
For number 1 the risk is probably a bit higher. You can invent an arbitrary number of non-existant releases just for points.
2005-09-26 16:11
tlr

Registered: Sep 2003
Posts: 1790
Quote: Screenshots: There are hell lot entries who were created by people who have no idea how to make a screenshot. a tiny thing which is ugly and if you click to zoom it it gets more ugly, such people should get punished.

The real problem is often that the release is locked so it can't be fixed!
There are quite a few locked releases with incomplete info, missing screenshots and such. (though credits for a release can be changed anyway :) )
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