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2006-03-11 16:32
Oswald

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 5086
How low one can get #2

Making money by stepping on the ppls back that made demos for free, for the scene ?

http://home.ngi.de/digitalmemories/buy.html

if you charge no more than DVD and postal costs I take my words back. Otherwise.....
 
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2006-03-11 18:16
Zyron

Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 2381
Good one Hein :)
2006-03-11 19:08
V-12

Registered: Nov 2003
Posts: 206
Some weeks ago one german guy wrote to me an email with the question if he can put my games onto his CD which he wants to sell for money. I told him that I don;t agree, because I did the games and released for free, shy someone wants to get the money for my free work ? All actions like this one should be banned.
2006-03-11 19:57
Slartibartfast
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Registered: Jul 2002
Posts: 230
Quote: Oswald, would you really want that? That would mean you have to turn into an evil businesssuit, and you'd loose every dignity. And then you furiously hit a laughing tree with your Ferrari, ending up in a wheelchair, family waiting for you to die, so they can inherit the millions..

I'd stick to being a creative soul, let others ruin their Karma..


:D
2006-03-11 21:38
CreaMD

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 3053
I see it like this... someone spends time creating a collection of carefully selected demos asking authors for permissions to publish the demos on a DVD which will be sold for "estimated cost". Then spends some time DVD doing some work around interface and stuff and finally after years starts to sell it. That would be quite right IMO. Question is if authors of the demos were contacted etc.. if not, then something is wrong there. Anyway gotta put that collection to "related" it's not a C64 release anyway.

P.S.: Special message for people who "know" c64.sk rules better than me. (the news will be put to related because I didn't receive those 100 eurobucks + 5 copies of DVD ;-)))))

2006-03-11 21:57
Hein

Registered: Apr 2004
Posts: 946
Quote: I see it like this... someone spends time creating a collection of carefully selected demos asking authors for permissions to publish the demos on a DVD which will be sold for "estimated cost". Then spends some time DVD doing some work around interface and stuff and finally after years starts to sell it. That would be quite right IMO. Question is if authors of the demos were contacted etc.. if not, then something is wrong there. Anyway gotta put that collection to "related" it's not a C64 release anyway.

P.S.: Special message for people who "know" c64.sk rules better than me. (the news will be put to related because I didn't receive those 100 eurobucks + 5 copies of DVD ;-)))))



I'm still waiting for that e-mail..

On the other hand, I never asked permission to Hajime or Boris, but we (Bml) did win a few guilders to buy ourselves some steaks. Don't know about the other democreators mentioned on the DVD. For all I know, they're surfing the waves in Hawaii. Aloha to them...
2006-03-12 10:25
Oswald

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 5086
Quote: I see it like this... someone spends time creating a collection of carefully selected demos asking authors for permissions to publish the demos on a DVD which will be sold for "estimated cost". Then spends some time DVD doing some work around interface and stuff and finally after years starts to sell it. That would be quite right IMO. Question is if authors of the demos were contacted etc.. if not, then something is wrong there. Anyway gotta put that collection to "related" it's not a C64 release anyway.

P.S.: Special message for people who "know" c64.sk rules better than me. (the news will be put to related because I didn't receive those 100 eurobucks + 5 copies of DVD ;-)))))



creamd, half of any of the demos on the DVD was more work than the dvd itself.

if all the demo authors gave permission then its okay. But in this case I think most demo creators shares murdock opinion.
2006-03-12 10:27
Slartibartfast
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Posts: 230
All of the creative work of any scener is automatically copyrighted material when released unless specified otherwise.

That's all I have to say about that.
2006-03-12 10:45
CreaMD

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 3053
Quote: All of the creative work of any scener is automatically copyrighted material when released unless specified otherwise.

That's all I have to say about that.


Exactly! That's how the law works.
2006-03-12 10:49
CreaMD

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 3053
Quote: creamd, half of any of the demos on the DVD was more work than the dvd itself.

if all the demo authors gave permission then its okay. But in this case I think most demo creators shares murdock opinion.


DVD easier to do than demos. Maybe. Depends on how much work one gives to deail and interface while producing it. I would apprecaite work of someone who would create a decent collection of e.g. the best amiga demos on DVD as I don't have Amiga.

Authors giving or not giving permission, that depends on them, important is to ALWAYS ASK for that PERMISSION. I think some demo-creators wouldn't mind if they were asked nicely. Murdock is known for extreme stands ;-)
2006-03-12 11:02
jailbird

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1578
Quote: All of the creative work of any scener is automatically copyrighted material when released unless specified otherwise.

That's all I have to say about that.


So copying an effect - lets say, a DYCP or a 4x4 - is actually a copyright infringementation unless the creator of the original effect specifies otherwise?

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