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2020-06-05 15:41
JCH

Registered: Aug 2008
Posts: 200
SID Factory II

Laxity and I have decided to go BETA with SID Factory II to let all curious SID composers also have a go at this cross-platform SID editor.

We have a Facebook group that you are welcome to join. There's also a nifty user manual there. If you're not on Facebook, this thread should serve as another place where we can share questions, ideas, music, bugs, new builds, additional files, etc.

Please note that although SID Factory II is quite stable and more than capable of editing SID tunes at this point, it is still missing a few essential things such as e.g. sub tunes. We have a solid ToDo and will post new builds here as they become available.

The first official BETA build: SIDFactoryII_20200604.zip
 
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2020-08-13 21:20
chatGPZ

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11386
Quote:
We've got the macOS version already.

yes, sure. but some ppl prefer compiling on the commandline :)

it might actually be possible to remove the need to define this _SF2_whatever symbol, and use system specific symbols instead... so a single makefile will work for all of them. a good start would be to require _SF2_MACOS for macos, and not put the macos stuff in the "else" branches (instead put an #error there). In another step you can then replace those by system specific (defined by your compiler, or IDE) defines, like _WIN32 for windows. Oh well. it works either way for now :=)

edit: oh yeah, perhaps remove the -g from FLAGS (that will add debug symbols)
2020-08-13 22:01
JCH

Registered: Aug 2008
Posts: 200
The ".." file thing is a bug that we've fixed in the next build to come. You can use Backspace instead in Windows, hope that works in Linux too.
2020-08-13 22:02
tlr

Registered: Sep 2003
Posts: 1790
Quote: The ".." file thing is a bug that we've fixed in the next build to come. You can use Backspace instead in Windows, hope that works in Linux too.

Backspace works in linux too, thanks!
2020-08-13 22:12
Laxity

Registered: Aug 2005
Posts: 459
Quote: Quoting Groepaz
There are still some flaws with those Makefiles... first obvious one reported by Mr.Ammo: if you compile on macos and it gives you a ton of errors, add -std=c++17 to FLAGS :) The same might be required on Linux, depending on your version of GCC

Compiles on Ubuntu 20.04LTS, gcc (Ubuntu 9.3.0-10ubuntu2) 9.3.0, though with quite a few warnings (here: sf2-20200718_warnings.txt).
It seems to run fine, but I only loaded and played a demo song.

A rather weird anomaly is that selecting '..' in the file selector gives a modal warning about invalid file, but pressing enter there clears it and still goes to the parent directory.


Yeah, ok. I havn’t had initialization order warnings since coding for PS3, it’s not a standard level of warnings In Visual Studio, nor XCode. I guess you can win some speed on the cachelines, but for the purpose of this application, that seems like a waste of time.

I have some warning using clang, which sre all in reSID, else nothing.

The “..” bug is fixed. I actually thought it was in released source also.
2020-08-13 22:17
chatGPZ

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11386
i added -Wall in the makefile, which is what i always do... they are always worth fixing, IMHO, cleaner code does never hurt :) (i even use -Wextra -W for my own stuff)
2020-08-13 22:18
Laxity

Registered: Aug 2005
Posts: 459
Quote: Quote:
We've got the macOS version already.

yes, sure. but some ppl prefer compiling on the commandline :)

it might actually be possible to remove the need to define this _SF2_whatever symbol, and use system specific symbols instead... so a single makefile will work for all of them. a good start would be to require _SF2_MACOS for macos, and not put the macos stuff in the "else" branches (instead put an #error there). In another step you can then replace those by system specific (defined by your compiler, or IDE) defines, like _WIN32 for windows. Oh well. it works either way for now :=)

edit: oh yeah, perhaps remove the -g from FLAGS (that will add debug symbols)


I suck at makefiles - always hated them :) I added the define to VS, because that I know, and so as long as there were only those two platforms, all would be great. At least it’s only needed to select which platform class to instantiate, as I recall. :) I don’t really like ifdefs.
2020-08-13 22:22
tlr

Registered: Sep 2003
Posts: 1790
Quote: i added -Wall in the makefile, which is what i always do... they are always worth fixing, IMHO, cleaner code does never hurt :) (i even use -Wextra -W for my own stuff)

Just don't ask compyx. When you fixed all your warnings, he'll just pull out one more -W option to expose further stuff... ;)
2020-08-13 22:25
Laxity

Registered: Aug 2005
Posts: 459
Quote: Just don't ask compyx. When you fixed all your warnings, he'll just pull out one more -W option to expose further stuff... ;)

Haha. I’m not going to fix those. They are of absolutely no consequence. :) Except maybe for foundation structures, it might give a slight performance boost... :)
2020-08-13 22:28
tlr

Registered: Sep 2003
Posts: 1790
Quoting Laxity
Yeah, ok. I havn’t had initialization order warnings since coding for PS3, it’s not a standard level of warnings In Visual Studio, nor XCode. I guess you can win some speed on the cachelines, but for the purpose of this application, that seems like a waste of time.

No problem, just passing the information. If it's safe, then gpz should add -Wno-reorder to the flags to kill that warning.
There are a couple of signed/unsigned compare warnings in there (search -Wsign-compare). Most are obviously harmless, some could be worth checking at least.
2020-08-13 22:32
Laxity

Registered: Aug 2005
Posts: 459
Quote: Quoting Laxity
Yeah, ok. I havn’t had initialization order warnings since coding for PS3, it’s not a standard level of warnings In Visual Studio, nor XCode. I guess you can win some speed on the cachelines, but for the purpose of this application, that seems like a waste of time.

No problem, just passing the information. If it's safe, then gpz should add -Wno-reorder to the flags to kill that warning.
There are a couple of signed/unsigned compare warnings in there (search -Wsign-compare). Most are obviously harmless, some could be worth checking at least.


I just tried -Wall .. it's ridiculous.. It tells me when there are redundant characters after a semicolon. Jesus!

Yeah, the signed unsigned ones needs to be fixed!
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