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2011-05-25 06:55
The Shadow

Registered: Oct 2007
Posts: 304
Repeal Anonymous Voting

Anonymous voting allows cowards to abuse the voting system. People downvote like sneaky little bastards. If you are voting for a person, group or release and you feel that your particular vote is how you honestly feel then there is no reason to conceal your vote. Repealing anonymous voting would weed out a large portion of the downvoters.
 
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2011-05-28 19:41
CreaMD

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 3051
Quoting Stainless
What about the non-anonymous downvoters ?


as I said above...

"By making only non anonymous votes counted for some of us, not everyone will get fairer rank. Not all unfair downvoters are anonymous."

the new filter feature won't be a miracle solution.
2011-05-28 19:49
Frantic

Registered: Mar 2003
Posts: 1647
Just wanted to remind people that all those that do not care about various issues in various treads (such as this one) has a tendency not to bother writing posts in these threads, for obvious reasons. Why write a post to say that you don't care about something? Hence, it is easy to get the impression that these issues are "big issues" that "many members" of this board "cares a lot" about, even if that might actually not be the case.

Therefore, I would like to make an exception to the tendency mentioned above, to say explicitly that I REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY don't care about the issue of anonymous voting on CSDb. ...and the point is that I think the vast majority of the users here are with me in having this stance towards this issue. I can't be sure of that, of course. How would you know? ...but I would bet on it.

At least I think this possibility should be taken into account. If it is true, then there is no need to panic. Just leave things the way they are (because that is the easiest), and everything will be just fine (even though the few yellers may give you the impression of something else).

:)
2011-05-28 20:09
macx

Registered: Mar 2002
Posts: 254
Quoting Frantic

At least I think this possibility should be taken into account. If it is true, then there is no need to panic. Just leave things the way they are (because that is the easiest), and everything will be just fine (even though the few yellers may give you the impression of something else).

Word!

Differentiate between The Charts in disk magazines and aggregated votes in various online fora.
2011-05-28 22:23
Jazzcat

Registered: Feb 2002
Posts: 1044
Quote: What about the non-anonymous downvoters ?

Haha. They have guts and balls! That's for sure.
2011-05-28 23:07
CreaMD

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 3051
I'm not speaking generally, but in one particular case it seems it is quite easy to have guts and balls when you are idiot whose number of handles is almost as big as number of releases, which means that as far as your reputation is concerned you don't have anything to lose.

And generally, the less people achieved or know, the more they tend to have extreme judgements not taking context into account.
2011-05-28 23:21
Jazzcat

Registered: Feb 2002
Posts: 1044
So, apart from not wanting to receive emails or to take the effort in discussing your vote with the scener/group etc involved. What other reasons are there to be anonymous?
2011-05-29 06:58
MagerValp

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1074
Quoting Frantic
Therefore, I would like to make an exception to the tendency mentioned above, to say explicitly that I REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY don't care about the issue of anonymous voting on CSDb. ...and the point is that I think the vast majority of the users here are with me in having this stance towards this issue.


Indeed, I'm squarely in the don't care camp too, but I think most of us would want these whiny voting threads to FOAD. Hence my rather drastic suggestion to simply hide the voting statistics - there just wouldn't be any fodder for the threads.

A filter's a good start though.
2011-05-29 07:24
Ed

Registered: May 2004
Posts: 173
Some days ago I answered on a mail here and will let you in on my quick views:

Concerning the anonymous voting discussion in general I dont think many people will suffer badly if the votes went public, as there are only a few percentage (me, James, Yazoo and some more people) that actually have taken some time to vote around here.

Most of you guys that raise your voices have usually only voted around 150+ votes and have seldom more than a few 50+ releases in the scene. It's all there. Just check the statistics.

I feel the whole discussion is rather limiting in the first place as it would probably be more fruitful if we could attack it from a different angle. Of course, there have been attempts to show that the voting algorithm in general is not a good one and that basically everything about the voting system, from navigation, frequency of voters and activity, to anonymous or public votes, etc. has flaws.

Usually there are some "patches", "filters" or "new formulas" suggested that even moderators at times end up telling us that they'll take under consideration, but in the end of the day it still looks the same.

Usually discussions are pointed to examples such as election votes and also imdb votes, etc. and the counter-reaction is that "well that's a completely different thing" because it works there. And then a number of different reasons why, all returning to the source of the problem: there is simply too little energy put into the voting here. There are numerous other obvious problems with such a comparison which I will leave out here. Get out of the loop.

2011-05-29 10:31
chatGPZ

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11359
*applause*

time to close the thread :)
2011-05-29 10:49
v3to

Registered: Feb 2005
Posts: 150
leaving personal preferences behind i agree that the quantity of votes is the only real issue here (and probably deleting votes of people that left as csdb members)... with more votes there would be no reason for down/upvote or anonymous discussion.
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