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2003-02-21 13:44
Dr. Jay
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Demo DVD?

Has anyone taken on the ambition of recording the top demos to a video and/or DVD? I would love to have a compilation so people can enjoy the top productions anywhere they choose. I also think it would be great background material ... for example, throw a party, toss the demos on the big screen with some funky SID background muzak ...

At any rate, if this has already been done, I'd love to find out where I can get my copy! If it hasn't, then this is a project I'll definitely consider working on.

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2003-02-21 16:40
Testicle
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Quote: I mean : capturing all demo parts individually in a MPEG1/2 file each and when authoring the DVD/VCD/..., convert the MPEG files in looping MPEG videos. Then use interactivity possibilities of a DVD/VCD player to chain all the stuffs.

yes, but what dark judge meant, are parts where you can change parameters within one part with joystick, for example changing the speed of splitbar-moving oder multiplexed sprite-movement. that's something you can't consider in a video/mpeg file. but anyway, that's a fact you can live with, regarded to the possibility of having lots of demos on dvd. :)
2003-02-21 16:49
TDJ

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I'm only not real crazy about using an EMU in this case though, esp. graphics will suffer.
2003-02-21 17:39
Pater Pi
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SOUND will suffer.
although, yes, gfx may suffer too, they won't suffer as much as sound will....

in general a vcd (or even more) with c64 demos on it would be cool. Must go and ask friend of me if his tv-card works again.
2003-02-21 17:42
Majikeyric

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Quote: yes, but what dark judge meant, are parts where you can change parameters within one part with joystick, for example changing the speed of splitbar-moving oder multiplexed sprite-movement. that's something you can't consider in a video/mpeg file. but anyway, that's a fact you can live with, regarded to the possibility of having lots of demos on dvd. :)


OK, I haven't understood this way ;o)
is it so important to change scrolls speed or sprite movements in an interactive way ?
Just do it while capturing...
2003-02-21 17:48
Majikeyric

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Quote: SOUND will suffer.
although, yes, gfx may suffer too, they won't suffer as much as sound will....

in general a vcd (or even more) with c64 demos on it would be cool. Must go and ask friend of me if his tv-card works again.


Personnaly I think VCD would be better :

more compatible (DVD/VCD player /PC-MAC without DVD-ROM)
low cost production
more easily spreadable
interactive possibilities (with the great tool : VCDEasy)
enough good resolution (352*288 PAL, 352*240 NTSC)

and a 80 minutes show on a 700Mo CD...
2003-02-21 18:35
Pater Pi
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interactive possibilities (with the great tool : VCDEasy)

give me more infos about this (:
2003-02-21 18:46
Majikeyric

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Quote: interactive possibilities (with the great tool : VCDEasy)

give me more infos about this (:


yep check this site : www.vcdeasy.org ;o)
yes you can make interactive VCDs (motion menu, chapters selections...)
2003-02-24 08:33
Majikeyric

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In the past (5-6 years ago), I wanted to record on a VHS my favourite demos, game-intros/end sequences..., all the cool stuffs I enjoyed to watch on my C64.
With this posted subject the idea came back in my mind...
2003-02-24 09:53
algorithm

Registered: May 2002
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The only major problem is the compression format of MPG1, MPG2. It is only suited for Video/Photoquality images and not Semi Static Data.

Using A compression format such as AnimGIF might improve the compression ratio considering that most demo's feature static logo's or scrolling of static data.

The compressor will simply analyse the next frame and only the differences will be encoded.

Using MPEG will result in blurriness and artifacts particularly at the edges of text or sharp gfx images.
2003-02-24 11:33
Majikeyric

Registered: Sep 2002
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Yep ! You're right ! :o(
But what kind of anim/video file is more suitable for this kind of project ?
Apart capturing the C64 video source and converting it in MPEG I don't see...
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