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Merman
Registered: Dec 2002
Posts: 140 |
Transparent votes?
There's been a lot of "discussion" in the one-liner box about whether voting should be transparent, i.e. you can see who voted (and their vote's value).
I feel that things should stay as they are, just the number of votes and "weighted" vote shown for each entry. That would save all the arguments "why did you vote low for me?" or "he/she is a lamer, they voted low for me/my release"
What do others think? |
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dalezy
Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 476 |
i don't see why it should be anonymous. there's nothing to hide really. |
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Stryyker
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 468 |
Transparent votes is a load of shit. Why would you really want it? I know of many people who would never vote if it was not transparent (I would not vote in transparent charts). If there is thought to be some fudging of votes then the admins here have their logs which may trace IPs and usernames (both important). Otherwise people create fake accounts, vote etc. I see transparent votes is some kind of stand over tactics. Scare people from being honest without fear. If they did introduce transparent votes then I'd be happy to see voting elimated entirely. |
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Optimus
Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 122 |
I think I don't currently care or know, whether I would like such a thing or not. After you discuss it for a while, the only solution is a poll. There are people who want and people who don't.. |
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Optimus
Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 122 |
However, it would be interesting to know who voted for what. I don't care that much, whether I have something to hide or not. On pouet, there exist transparent votes (but only thumbs up/down and neither numbers nor voting for individual sceners too) and it's fine for me.
Also, some people intentionally vote really bad marks for specific demos, just because they think these demos got an attention they didn't deserved. Deus Ex Machina for example, someone voted 1. Why 1 and not 3 or 5 if he doesn't like it? He intentionally wanted to lower it's position I beleive.
Happens in Pouet sometimes too (rarely), there is for example a demo in the top10 and someone doesn't beleive it deserves such attention and he votes it down out of reaction to the many thumbs up votes, even if he admits that he wouldn't thumb it down under normal conditions but he did only to counter the many possitive votes that this shouldn't have got in his opinion. |
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iopop
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 317 |
I don't understand the need for votes at all. |
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Derision
Registered: Feb 2002
Posts: 69 |
I kind of dig the voting. I mean... I'm not going to lose sleep over it if it disappears, but it's always fun to see where productions and sceners rank amongst the others.
Truly transparent votes would probably get rid of the kind of downvoting that Optimus is talking about. I have the feeling that there is some of that going on around here, which is probably the cause of the recent oneliner uproar (why isn't Vanja on this thread, anyway?). If the votes were transparent, and you could "point the finger" (so to speak) at the person doing it, it'd probably deter them from downvoting in the first place. The downside to transparent voting is that, for some reason, people sometimes don't like voting if it's not anonymous... and, as Merman pointed out, it will cause a lot of arguments and discussions about WHY somebody voted this or that for whatever release they voted for.
Of course, there could always be, er, "translucent" voting, as it were... so that you can see WHO voted for what production, but not HOW they voted... or even that they voted above a five or below a five, or something like that. I don't know how that'd work to cut down the downvoting, but I suppose it's worth a shot. Otherwise... I don't have a specific preference for either kind.
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fade
Account closed
Registered: Mar 2002
Posts: 290 |
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zdzisek
Account closed
Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 33 |
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I agree. |
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Steppe
Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 1510 |
Fade, you obviously got confused here: It's not about tranparent POSTINGS, it's about transparent VOTING. Doh! ;-) |
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Mermaid
Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 338 |
There WAS a poll - and as far as I can recall the majority voted for transparent votes, yet nothing has happened.
There has also been at least one forum topic about transparent votes before, yet nothing has happened. |
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