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2021-12-10 21:48
TheRyk

Registered: Mar 2009
Posts: 2219
What's downvoting...

Quoting Shine

"LOVE TO THE NEGATIVE DOWNVOTERS..."

Means what exactly?
Just curious, what is a downvote in your opinion, Knight Rider?

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Feel free to lead (yet another) philosophical debate on the definition of downvoting here, but pretty please not in entry comments ffs

and behave...

*opens his umbrella for weather forecast tells me to expect shitstorm and heavy vote whining tears rains*

An example from some drama last summer: Voting a 2 on something with zero downloads (which means someone votes it lower than 10 without even downloading the file), now THAT's definetely downvoting in my book

PS: @the current release overly hard 5s are outweiged by overenthusiastic 10s pretty well currently imho
 
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2021-12-14 00:11
Moloch

Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 2925
Quoting Wile Coyote
Whoever voted 5/10 needs shooting
Oum Le Dauphin [2sid]

Guess what, that vote comes from someone that posted in this very thread.
2021-12-14 01:00
chatGPZ

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11360
So why do you hate the tune?
2021-12-14 01:07
Moloch

Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 2925
HA! I knew some smartass would come along and post that.
2021-12-14 01:18
Raistlin

Registered: Mar 2007
Posts: 659
Moloch: who? And how do you know?

That mods know who voted, despite votes being “anonymous”, is another problem on CSDb IMO. So votes are anonymous - but only to “the plebs” (to coin a term oft used by Boris Johnson and his ilk).

Also, the weird algorithm used… how can scores sometimes be skewed so heavily away from the simple average..?
2021-12-14 08:27
Fungus

Registered: Sep 2002
Posts: 680
No one msgs me, they know I'd tell them to buzz off. Haha.
2021-12-14 09:09
Hate Bush

Registered: Jul 2002
Posts: 462
Quote: Moloch: who? And how do you know?

That mods know who voted, despite votes being “anonymous”, is another problem on CSDb IMO. So votes are anonymous - but only to “the plebs” (to coin a term oft used by Boris Johnson and his ilk).

Also, the weird algorithm used… how can scores sometimes be skewed so heavily away from the simple average..?


agreed on both points. that sort of elitism is meh, the algorithm - which makes 7 a downvote - even more so.

make all votes anonymous! *puts up the flag, digs a trench*
2021-12-14 09:23
Frantic

Registered: Mar 2003
Posts: 1647
Well, you gotta have some sort of advantage if you help bear the burden of running this place.. ;)

God asks Hedning: Hedning, would you help out running CSDb, by being a mod?

Hedning responds: Not so sure about that. Seems like a lot of work. What's in it for me?

God says: Uhh.... uhm.. you get to see who the downvoters are?

Hedning says: Deal!!
2021-12-14 09:36
enthusi

Registered: May 2004
Posts: 677
I.. can... not... resist...
I need to bring up my awesome idea here, again.
Every forum member has a list of top 5 (or 10) per category.
Every now and then the website (or so) generates the charts from those lists. They could/should be public but if they were anonymous it limits the 'abuse' as well.
Also, there is no way anymore to identify particularly bad releases.
While 'worst 10' is fun, there is really no need for it.
(and even then, you could add personal worst 5 as well, etc...)
2021-12-14 10:54
TheRyk

Registered: Mar 2009
Posts: 2219
Quoting Wile Oum Le Dauphin [2sid

Whoever voted 5/10 needs shooting

Maybe someone who has got only one SID or one ear and thus, hates the idea of Stereo and divided his upvote by 2?
Quoting Raistlin
That mods know who voted, despite votes being “anonymous”, is another problem on CSDb IMO. So votes are anonymous - but only to “the plebs”

The plebs shall eat cake!
Quoting Frantic
Well, you gotta have some sort of advantage if you help bear the burden of running this place.. ;)

Seriously, this ain't an advantage at all. It's far better not to know certain things, and I'm not speaking of ppl who vote on my stuff (I've never checked that, not even my scener rating - which is kinda overrated anyway) but of the rare occasions when people pointed Mods to hunt down downvoters - which btw only once happened last year and that case was really clear as the culprit's 2s flew in before anyone even could download the file...

To be honest, I mostly moved the comment to keep the entry comments clear of that discussion; I did NOT expect this thread to result in any clear definition. But I hope even the discussion illustrates how problematic it is that we currently have General behaviour rule I.6 stating something (downvoting) leads to ban though that 'something' isn't even possible to define...

@Enthusi: I like your suggestion! Not easy to implement, of course, but way smarter than the current situation.
2021-12-14 11:25
enthusi

Registered: May 2004
Posts: 677
I'd even be very interessted in this information.
Like: Ah, The(mighty)Ryk considers those to be the true legends of c64 demo scene.
It would easily lead to learning about gems I may not have been aware of. It would also help the leverage of old demos vs new hyped ones (imo).
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