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2023-12-15 00:38
Oswald

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 5096
Release id #237162 : Tribute to Vangelis

@4gent,

1) feels you took those quotes out of context
2) I even said to 2 girls on the schoolyard when I was 9 that I'm never gonna have sex because its disgusting
3) Talent added so much of his own, that I consider it an original work, Vermeer traced outlines with pinhole camera, Talent used another work for reference I couldnt care less.
 
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2023-12-15 18:11
Jammer

Registered: Nov 2002
Posts: 1337
Quoting 4gentE
@Jammer :
See?
I knew your and LMan’s plea will fall on deaf ears.

You conveniently missed part of the point, sir. LMan also criticized quite toxic way of discussion which you also started to contribute to, sadly. Cause is noble but means are wrong. I expect more maturity from sceners in handling such serious topics, tbh.
2023-12-15 18:17
4gentE

Registered: Mar 2021
Posts: 285
@Jammer :
I know, I know, I hear you man. Sorry.
2023-12-15 18:21
LMan

Registered: Jun 2010
Posts: 83
It is okay if we wish to set a new standard.

It is bad, and massively unfair, to single out any past release and hold it to that new standard. Here it must not matter how long ago the past release was.

As stated, I agree with those wanting to set up new rules for sources-listig, something which I always took great care of doing on my own project.

However I strongly reject the way it is fought out above Talent's Vangelis picture.

I am an atheist, but I always liked the "who is without sin may throw first" sentiment.
2023-12-15 18:21
Oswald

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 5096
Quote: Heh, you missed the tutorial video from the original 3D artist?

Hey, did you missed that electric fabricated a picture and presented it as the original? Sander even fell for it and then claimed that Talent lied using several pictures for the portrait. Nice job guys.
2023-12-15 18:25
Hein

Registered: Apr 2004
Posts: 954
Quote: Hey, did you missed that electric fabricated a picture and presented it as the original? Sander even fell for it and then claimed that Talent lied using several pictures for the portrait. Nice job guys.

Heh, that's funny. Unless Talent is Vahid Ahmadi.
2023-12-15 18:28
Jammer

Registered: Nov 2002
Posts: 1337
BTW, Electric's initial assumption was that Talent's effort is automatized and not how many references he used so eventually you guys started to accuse of multiple random things for the sake of winning little rhetoric battles hence it all quickly veered from the actual problem. Amrite?
2023-12-15 18:31
4gentE

Registered: Mar 2021
Posts: 285
@Hein
Quote:
Heh, that's funny. Unless Talent is Vahid Ahmadi.

Now, that, sir, would be some serious, genius even, piece of mindf*ckery. Makes me wish it were so.
2023-12-15 18:32
Hein

Registered: Apr 2004
Posts: 954
Quote: BTW, Electric's initial assumption was that Talent's effort is automatized and not how many references he used so eventually you guys started to accuse of multiple random things for the sake of winning little rhetoric battles hence it all quickly veered from the actual problem. Amrite?

I wouldn't dare to summarize this thread. :) But the process from 3D original to C64, yes, that's interesting.
2023-12-15 18:46
4gentE

Registered: Mar 2021
Posts: 285
@Jammer
Who exactly do you refer to by “you guys”?

I’m under the impression that there are 2 guys from Censor on one “side”, and a whole bunch of people that basically have no “side”. Only those two are for some reason so aggressive that almost everyone decided to better just shut up. Maybe I’m wrong. Maybe I’m in my ‘bubble’, separated from reality. I don’t exclude that possibility. In all this Talent is curiously absent, I kinda hope he’s preparing a big, argumented response.
2023-12-15 18:54
Jammer

Registered: Nov 2002
Posts: 1337
Or he'll give up any interaction here after rather persistent public ostracism - also a likely option.
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