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2007-05-10 05:16
Oswald

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 5086
Rigid moderation poll:yes/no ?

1. should we have a few trusted moderators?
2. should troublemaker accounts be deleted?
3. should troll threads be closed?

my votes:

1. yes
2. yes
3. yes
 
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2007-05-11 07:46
Stainless Steel

Registered: Mar 2003
Posts: 966
Though i'd vote for a moderation of this forum, im not sure about who should be among the moderators.

I see alot of biased people around here and frankly i think most of us aren't qualified for the job.

We need moderation, i agree.

What we don't need is censorship and individuals using a moderator status to settle their grudges and gripes.

2007-05-11 08:23
Trazan

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 620
Quote: Though i'd vote for a moderation of this forum, im not sure about who should be among the moderators.

I see alot of biased people around here and frankly i think most of us aren't qualified for the job.

We need moderation, i agree.

What we don't need is censorship and individuals using a moderator status to settle their grudges and gripes.



If you see ppl around here NOT suitable as moderators - let us know and DO suggest ppl with a neutral stand to actually monitor and react in threads all fucked up.

2007-05-11 08:24
Laxity

Registered: Aug 2005
Posts: 459
Quote: Though i'd vote for a moderation of this forum, im not sure about who should be among the moderators.

I see alot of biased people around here and frankly i think most of us aren't qualified for the job.

We need moderation, i agree.

What we don't need is censorship and individuals using a moderator status to settle their grudges and gripes.



We're all biased, we can't get around that - but if we agree on it and have moderation on CSDb, we need to face that the moderation - no matter who will be moderating - will be biased. It's just a question of how biased it will be. This implies that we need to trust and respect the moderators instated.

Also, if we get moderation here (which will have to be based on us trusting the moderators), there has to be rules of conduct for moderators. For instance, if a moderator is engaging in a discussion as a private person, he/she is automatically not allowed to moderate that discussion/thread. This also implies that a moderator may be moderated by other moderators, and hence, that needs to be something that any moderators keeps in mind. If the community looses faith in a moderator, that moderator should loose his status as a moderator based on some feedback mechanism (maybe?).

I'm really not for moderation, but seems that we have trouble behaving ourselves - so as a consequence of that, I'd have to vote a reluctant yes for moderation. (oh, those shades of gray suck!)
2007-05-11 08:46
BAR.
Account closed

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 324
Sometimes in the past they scream for a moderator to clear
or end some discussion. But there was none coming up mostly.
Now if we call to join in - it is good to know that there is
a chance to get help against attacks or stupidis..

I saw it often here but nothing happends then..

There is a moment where we thought we're right but no one is perfect or had the same knowledge about stories, background
stuff or others..
2007-05-11 11:14
Richard

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 621
Quote: Remembering some cool SEUCKS in the late 90's i don't agree
at that point.

I like some: CASANOVA, IKARI WARRIORS, WESTERN FIGHTER
OR THE RIVER PATROL BY THE SYNDICATE OF BEASTIE BOYS, f.e. ;)


I agree with you as well Baracuda. I disagree that SEUCK games *should* be removed off the CSDB, unless it depends on the quality of the games. Many SEUCK games are bad, but there are also some very good ones as well. Here are a few I think people would enjoy:

Synetic (One of the best SEUCK games to my mind)
Synetic [seuck]

Aquablasta
Aquablasta

Sub Burner
Sub Burner +4

I wont give any more links to SEUCK games. You find the rest for yourself :)

2007-05-11 11:36
Mace

Registered: May 2002
Posts: 1799
Quoting Richard
I disagree that SEUCK games *should* be removed off the CSDB, unless it depends on the quality of the games.
And who decides what the quality-level of a release is?
SEUCK games should not be removed unless absolutely obvious that someone just uploaded it to nag the community.
If some beginning scener writes 5 lines of basic, because that's all he knows, and releases it as a demo, it's his good right. Same with SEUCK, same with any other product.
2007-05-11 13:30
Honesty

Registered: Jan 2003
Posts: 121
I think everyone releases what he wants.Maybe there should be more classes of what kind of release it is(see post from grg).
Also the idea with the red and yellow card thing isn´t bad at all.
Maybe automatic hitch it to the handle of the scener, so everyone can see what is going on with this dude. But before had to be rules which are definated and maybe a new verify of the users where they had to agree this rules(like when u install a game)

So aftwerward nobody can say he didn´t know.
Also there should be a period in which u get rid of the "cards" when behave normal.
2007-05-11 14:12
Mace

Registered: May 2002
Posts: 1799
Can't we think of some 'karma' system, like on one of my favourite websites www.tweakers.net?

What if every single post on the forum could be given a value by the users?
Like "+1 helpful", "+1 informative" or "-1 off topic", "-1 troll".

As soon as you have posted in the thread, you can not add value to the postings. Also, you can only add your values once.

If a user ends up having negative karma, this could have consequences for his/her rights on the forum, like a posting time-out that increases in duration every time the karma hits zero.
After the time out, the user can gain karma again by posting positive/useful messages.
2007-05-11 14:39
The Overkiller
Account closed

Registered: Mar 2002
Posts: 342
Someone was at -218 of Karma here :)
2007-05-11 15:19
CreaMD

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 3052
Quote: Can't we think of some 'karma' system, like on one of my favourite websites www.tweakers.net?

What if every single post on the forum could be given a value by the users?
Like "+1 helpful", "+1 informative" or "-1 off topic", "-1 troll".

As soon as you have posted in the thread, you can not add value to the postings. Also, you can only add your values once.

If a user ends up having negative karma, this could have consequences for his/her rights on the forum, like a posting time-out that increases in duration every time the karma hits zero.
After the time out, the user can gain karma again by posting positive/useful messages.


Can you imagine having karma system in the land of notorious downvoters? ;-) In the system of all-good/passive minority of dedicated bad-doers always win. One of my friends over where wrote few articles and simulations on this subject. Result:1 Either we will all realise our personal responsibility and stop ignore the baddies, or the badies will always "profit" from us.

Karma is not needed for this database. Everyone creates his own karma by producing/creating/organising/supporting stuff for c64. We aren't net of nameless of social-network entities. Everyone of us can add a value to this system. And those who don't should be rejected.

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