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Merman
Registered: Dec 2002
Posts: 140 |
Transparent votes?
There's been a lot of "discussion" in the one-liner box about whether voting should be transparent, i.e. you can see who voted (and their vote's value).
I feel that things should stay as they are, just the number of votes and "weighted" vote shown for each entry. That would save all the arguments "why did you vote low for me?" or "he/she is a lamer, they voted low for me/my release"
What do others think? |
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Oswald
Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 5094 |
I agree with fade... sit down and make something meaningfull on the commie instead of wasting time on this topic...
I have to laugh on you... it was funny when someone started a topic, that why is his 10years ago died cracking group not on the top10... WHO THE FUCK DOES CARE ? you are just a bunch of grown up crying for your lost childhood... get real. Look at things at their real importance. |
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TDJ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1879 |
Quote: I agree with fade... sit down and make something meaningfull on the commie instead of wasting time on this topic...
I have to laugh on you... it was funny when someone started a topic, that why is his 10years ago died cracking group not on the top10... WHO THE FUCK DOES CARE ? you are just a bunch of grown up crying for your lost childhood... get real. Look at things at their real importance.
Oh sure, and making demos on c64 is of real importance? In case you & Fade don't realize it yet: this is a forum, we're supposed to share our opinions here, and appearantly transparant voting is important enough for a bunch of us to do just that. And if you had paid attention you would understand that it's not about our own groups/releases not being in top 10's, it's about people fucking up the voting-system. If I really cared about being in the top 10 I wouldn't have changed my votes back making Visual Delight 2 fall from it.
I happen to like rankings, I happen to like knowing what other people really think of groups & productions, and I happen to think that if votes are not transparent that that undermines the system. Now I may be wasting my time but that doesn't matter, it is MY time I waste, and not yours, unless you chose to butt in like you do now. So just STFU and go back to coding your demos, mkay? |
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_V_
Account closed
Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 124 |
Fade: Why yes, fairies don't exist and honesty is a concept not grasped by everyone, it seems. Therefore, the numbers on the right cannot be interpreted unless there are many, many votes to make the bias from deliberate downvotes and upvotes insignificant. Since there're not a lot of votes (ie. <50 mostly, even <100 isn't a lot), guess my thoughts on the current standings. And yes, that's a rhetorical statement. |
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Stryyker
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 468 |
Interesting. The Dark Judge wants his opinion voiced. If he highly dislikes someone elses opinion you tells them to go jump.
I do like to know what others think. It isn't too much different to diskmag charts. Only a small number know who voted for what and what they give.
I think too much of an issue is being made of these votes.
How about we pool some money together so everyone registered needs to have a number of lie detector tests? And then it will not be perfect.
Transparent votes reduces the rights of many, believing they have of free speeach. Everyone being able to interrogate votes reduces their freedom. Some don't want to offend people or upset them so they can give them what they honestly think.
This reminds me of the US presidential elections. Nothing will satisfy the public about who wins and flawed voting. |
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TDJ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1879 |
Stryyker, I'm not against people not sharing my opinion, I'm against people telling me I should stop sharing my opinion. There's a huge difference there. I'm fed up with people always saying "stop wasting time, do some c64 stuff instead". I paid my dues and if I want to spend the rest of my life talking about it, that's my choice. I don't force others to join me, all I ask is that if you don't care, just leave me alone. It's that simple.
So please don't try making me look like the bad guy, while I am defending, amongst others, you as well. Read before you write. |
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CreaMD
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 3057 |
Quote: Interesting. The Dark Judge wants his opinion voiced. If he highly dislikes someone elses opinion you tells them to go jump.
I do like to know what others think. It isn't too much different to diskmag charts. Only a small number know who voted for what and what they give.
I think too much of an issue is being made of these votes.
How about we pool some money together so everyone registered needs to have a number of lie detector tests? And then it will not be perfect.
Transparent votes reduces the rights of many, believing they have of free speeach. Everyone being able to interrogate votes reduces their freedom. Some don't want to offend people or upset them so they can give them what they honestly think.
This reminds me of the US presidential elections. Nothing will satisfy the public about who wins and flawed voting.
Free speech for anonyms??? ;-))) Isn't free speech about being able to speak out and not being punished for that? |
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Optimus
Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 122 |
Charts are always fuckin subjective :) |
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Cmr
Account closed
Registered: Jun 2003
Posts: 23 |
I agree with Stryyker. Some persons will take advantage of being able to see who voted for who and how he voted, and so to give bad critics to some persons about why they have such an opinion about that and so... And many persons don't like to be annoyed by such persons who like to slag on others who don't share the same mind as them.
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Slator
Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 274 |
do some personal option, like anonymous votes are show/count yes/no or something like that.. so everybody can decide for him/herself...
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Cmr
Account closed
Registered: Jun 2003
Posts: 23 |
Everybody was looking for a solution about these votes being transparent or not. Slator has the best solution at the moment, a solution which doesn't harm anybody. I support Slator's solution and I think this is also easy to arrange by Perff.
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