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2007-02-20 08:07
MagerValp

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1078
Release id #47128 : Fuck of M$

Are these four wired pictures even scene releases? As far as I can tell they are just plain image conversions done with one of the available tools out there.

It's always nice to see new sceners, but *some* effort and creativity is needed - you have to at least *try*.
 
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2007-02-20 12:30
MagerValp

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1078
Quote: Hum...
Those aint even good conversions.
Maybe a category or rather box "wired" for such gfx-entries would work? You cant decide what to ban and what to just let go. Im ok with i.e. masterpieces as a form of demonstration.
What about all those recent gfx-releases last winter? All due to Timanthes, P1 etc. Conversion, "hand"pixeled or not - they sure cant be compared to pre 90 stuff... Also, they are "wired" technically.
It's all a bad blur in my eyes. Those here are on the extreme side though..


It's not about wiring or not. If someone takes a photo or paints something in photoshop and then tweaks it to look good after wiring, it can still be an original and interesting piece of C64 art. What tools you use doesn't matter.
2007-02-20 12:30
Oswald

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 5094
enthusi: nah dont blame timanthes or p1, if you have an eye for c64 gfx, you'll point out what was wired and what was hand pixeleddw with eyes closed :) last years gfx boom was definitly pure handjob.
2007-02-20 14:05
CreaMD

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 3057
Quote: Delete them...fast!

I second that.
2007-02-20 14:05
algorithm

Registered: May 2002
Posts: 705
Wired Gfx are a dead giveaway.. To release a wired graphic piece as a release is not on. anyone can just press a button and create 1000 releases per day.

If the graphic is part of a demo, then fair enough, there is nothing wrong in that, but as a single gfx release??
2007-02-20 14:06
jailbird

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1578
Since these pictures are so obviously wired, the guy is not trying to fool us or something. True, a waste of precious data-space but I fail to realise the big fuss about it.
2007-02-20 14:07
Graham
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Registered: Dec 2002
Posts: 990
Quote: Scout, you're remark shows how crippled the whole idea behind an open database with unclear rules and no upholders is. ;-)

In a broader perspective it shows why anarchy doesn't work.


There are clear rules: No Protovision stuff :D
2007-02-20 14:09
Rough
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Registered: Feb 2002
Posts: 1829
id rather say they and discussing them are a waste of time, to call it a waste of data-space in nowaydays data unit sizes is complete nonsense
2007-02-20 14:17
jailbird

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1578
Yeah, discussing this is a waste as well, but Rough, multiple 30-40k with every hit on those things and we'll have quite a few megs of completely wasted bandwith... Not exactly a nonsense as long you have to pay for it. :)
2007-02-20 14:18
CreaMD

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 3057
Quote: Since these pictures are so obviously wired, the guy is not trying to fool us or something. True, a waste of precious data-space but I fail to realise the big fuss about it.

The fuss is because Thunder.Bird posted those 4 pics as news to c64.sk and I think people who are irritated about it are right. It's a crap not worth news at all.
2007-02-20 14:18
camper

Registered: Jul 2006
Posts: 16
Quote: Quote:
It's always nice to see new sceners


Yeah right, I have WinVice, a conversiontool and I've added myself to CSDb...and now I am a scener.

/me sighs


Interesting,how you know that..
i dont have winvice,because i dont even have Windows ...and i haven't added myself...
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