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Spectator
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Floppy 2004 demos
I'm suprised not to find a thread about this yet.
Anyways, the WD demo definitely was my favourite, go WD! Especially the music. ;) |
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TDJ
Registered: Dec 2001
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Quote: And then there is breakpoint 9-12th of april.. and and...
Shiiiiit ..
I'll just have to wait until the scene died then.
So stop producing already! |
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Dane
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Quote: No we're not. This is a forum, we're here to discuss demos. It's that simple.
Forgive me for preferring the actual demoscene over the metascene. |
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TDJ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1879 |
Quote: Forgive me for preferring the actual demoscene over the metascene.
You're forgiven. Now stop producing already! :) |
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T.M.R
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Personally, i'm just here for the free food... whaddya mean there isn't any?! |
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Dane
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Quote: You're forgiven. Now stop producing already! :)
There goes 60% of the scene :D |
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Spectator
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Quote: It's not? Damn! And here I was thinking we invented the wheel!
Thank you for showing me the light Spek! Without you, the whole demoscene would be lost!
Let's not get drifted away, shall we?
Quoting TDJ: "Sure, I prefer this style to that of a few years ago (hell, I helped originate it).."
Could you give me your definition of 'originate' then? Because the one i have doesn't fit here.
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CreaMD
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 3051 |
Quote: Forgive me for preferring the actual demoscene over the metascene.
It's called pseudoscene. It's a sub-cathegory of todays C64 scene which had evolved from the cracking and demo scene in past. There also is retro-scene and retard-scene. And zombie-scene. Let's call the only worthy C64 sub-scene the true-scene.
now for the examples
psedoscene: People releasing unworthy productions : All stuff like web sites, C64 data collections, databases and any thing which is not a demo. This also includes all text generated on IRC, Forums, newsgroups and all campaings and attempts on organising of pseudo-scene productions. Good example of pseudo-scene campaing is last months campaing on transparent-votes in CSDB. Plus all C64 hardware and power-user software and utilities which are not a demo. Plus all single file data which is not a demo. Special case is stuff not in standard C64 executable formats. Like .sid and raw gfx-editor data like .fli .fla .flu .mul .hir etc. etc. blah blah blah. I think
retard-scene: This is a group of groups marked by a group of sceners who produce true-scene productions (a.k.a. demos). Those groups produce uworthy bloated material without any insight to true-scene problematics or even material not connected to true-scene or pseudo-scene not to speak about retro-scene. Such articles like formula-one, erotic-stories and various non-true-retro-pseudo-scene yadi yadi and so on. Productions conisdered retard can also look as serious attempt on isnightful and valuable production but actually having so much factual bugs that it cries out loud. Retard scene groups and personalities can't hardly stand true-scene isnightful criticism and good advices to stop producing unworthy material and improve the overall quality of their product. I actually think there could be sometihg as a retard-demo. A truly blasphemous attempt on making a high-paced production of low quality especially made in basic, but I haven't seen any proofs of such qualification existing.
zombie-scene: Old long inactive sceners active in pseudo-scene areas. I'll rather avoid giving any examples ;-) No-demos.
retro-scene: scene based on nostalgiac feeling connected with C64-game software and material playing and collecting and also with the basic idea of "C64-related". This scene produces and organises various C64-related web-sites, collections and activities. Plus all the sid-music remixes, c64-game remakes and, videos and... C64(related) demos (in flash, java, javascript ;-)
disclaimer: This is not by any means serious attempt on giving serious cathegorisation, rather highly subjective view on things. I hope you had at least as much fun reading it as I had writting it *evil grin*. |
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TDJ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1879 |
Pieter, Pieter, Pieter ..
How many times have we played this game? We both know that it won't matter what I tell you, you'll always find some minor detail to attack me on, while conveniently ignoring that which doesn't suit you (see: the iopop response above). Sorry man, but I won't dance with you anymore.
I love talking about demos and the scene, as I find the whole subculture behind it maybe even more interesting than most of the products it delivers these days, but I refuse to waste my energy on somebody I don't even consider a demo-scener. It's like discussing football with a PSV fan. |
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_V_
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Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 124 |
<points to a lot of the above>
What does all this have to do with the Floppy 2004 demos? It might be an idea to open other threads with more appropriate titles, for example "Generation Rewinder X and their implication on the semi-newskool demo wave" or "Demos my muse" or "On Demo Effects and the development of axioms to postulate a rigorous definition".
Not that I don't enjoy reading the posts, but their connection to the topic is waning faster than Bush can increase unemployment in the US of A.
Thanks for the analysis, CreamD, and due to my bias I should probably sign up for the Zombie-scene. Zom-bie Zomm-bie Zommmm-bie! Ahyeah, have a nice weekend. |
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CreaMD
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 3051 |
Quote: <points to a lot of the above>
What does all this have to do with the Floppy 2004 demos? It might be an idea to open other threads with more appropriate titles, for example "Generation Rewinder X and their implication on the semi-newskool demo wave" or "Demos my muse" or "On Demo Effects and the development of axioms to postulate a rigorous definition".
Not that I don't enjoy reading the posts, but their connection to the topic is waning faster than Bush can increase unemployment in the US of A.
Thanks for the analysis, CreamD, and due to my bias I should probably sign up for the Zombie-scene. Zom-bie Zomm-bie Zommmm-bie! Ahyeah, have a nice weekend.
The above debate (including my post) is called thread-hijacking. ;-)
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