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Martin Piper
Registered: Nov 2007
Posts: 722 |
Proposed rule change
I would like to propose a rule change. If an admin is involved in posting in a thread they are not allowed to use their admin powers to delete posts, issue warnings or lock threads. This would help stop the situations where an admin who loses an argument can abuse their powers to remove the posts they personally disagree with.
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Martin Piper
Registered: Nov 2007
Posts: 722 |
Quote: Quoting Martin PiperIn common English "we do not give a fuck about" means "we do not care about".
and "we give a fuck" means "we care about" ?
Is English your mother tongue?
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Martin Piper
Registered: Nov 2007
Posts: 722 |
Quote: you have a funny interpretation of what is public and what is not. and yes it is "invitation only", the same way your home is. everyone may come knock at the door, but not everyone will be let in. (and most importantly, noone has the right to get in)
Actually you have a strange way of looking at things because this board is not like a home where someone is invited. You don't have a large portion of your home on public view, like this board. You don't have people asking to come in and then update parts of your home, like this board.
This board is more like a library, which is one way of describing a database in fact. The contents of the board/database/library are publicly viewable. If someone wants to "borrow a book", i.e. interact with the library, then they apply for a library card and when they are accepted they are able to interact with the contents of the library and perhaps add their own content.
This the usual phrase to describe that is *public* library. Ergo this board is *public*, not private as you claim.
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JCB
Account closed
Registered: Jun 2002
Posts: 241 |
Indeed, for examples of "private" sites, go check out some of the torrent trackers. You can't view most of them, you certainly can't download from them unless you join and even then some of them are invitation only (not request and wait for decision).
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11384 |
that doesnt change the fact that the right to use a public library is earned by the fact of public founding. just like you dont earn the right to participate in a football club because large parts of its activities are publicly viewable. or to not get your stuff deleted in wikipedia for that matter :)
(some parts of the database are not visible if not logged in, btw)
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Martin Piper
Registered: Nov 2007
Posts: 722 |
The donate button is public. I don't even need an account to donate. This site is funded by public donations. It is public not private. |
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Stainless Steel
Registered: Mar 2003
Posts: 966 |
Quoting Groepazpretty similar to good old BBSs.
So this is what you would like this site to be ? just like the good old BBSs, where Sysops/Cosysops with infantile and overblown ego's can rule with an iron fist?
As much fun as it was in the 80's i dont think that's going to work in this day and age. But i've been wrong before.
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11384 |
Quote:The donate button is public. I don't even need an account to donate. This site is funded by public donations. It is public not private.
notice the difference between "public donations" and "public founding". ie "some" vs "all". there are countless examples of organisations not founded by the public, but founded on "public donations" by individuals - someone mentioned the red cross already.
Quote:So this is what you would like this site to be ? just like the good old BBSs, where Sysops/Cosysops with infantile and overblown ego's can rule with an iron fist?
no, what i said is that the site IS like that. i am a dickhead, and i be censoring whatever doesnt fit my twisted views. see?
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JCB
Account closed
Registered: Jun 2002
Posts: 241 |
Unless you post a list of running costs and donations the only difference between "funding" and "donation" is the words. If everyone stopped donating would the site continue to run? I'm sure it might be nobody donating has that info. |
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11384 |
Quote:Unless you post a list of running costs and donations the only difference between "funding" and "donation" is the words
uh, its about "some" vs "all" still. and the difference between founding by the general public, and the founding by donations by some individuals.
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JCB
Account closed
Registered: Jun 2002
Posts: 241 |
Yes, some vs all, read what I posted. Nobody here knows if the donations are covering the running costs for the whole site and if they stopped would the site stop also?
Also comparing this site to the Red Cross is somewhat crazy. It's much more like the torrent sites I mentioned earlier.
The Red Cross is funded in many ways, from the public directly by donations, by governments (so probably indirectly to some degree by the public again) but generally the "donations" (public) are from people with no vested interest apart from philanthropy, to massage their conscience for some reason or even a nice way to write off some tax.
This site, the donations are from people who are directly involved in the site, be it visiting it, downloading from it, creating the content for it. Just like those pesky torrent sites.
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