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drake
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scene activity
more and more i get the feeling that the my world (the scene) has become smaller and smaller. after a chat with the overkiller it was clear to me that the dutch scene isn't alive anymore and the italian scene either.
but what about the polish scene, the slovak scene and the german scene? how did the c64 survive through all the modern thinkings and technology?
sure as hell i bet the german scene survived because the pc-sceners adopted the c64 on their parties like mekka+symposium.....
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Puterman
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Creamy, no one likes stupid sex jokes in German (like Metalvotze stuff). But this doesn't mean that releases like 10 Years Role or Ficken are any better. They're supposedly not fake demos, but to me they're just as fake as Metalvotze's releases. The same goes for mags like Scene World and Rock'n'Role (note that the people responsible for these releases have left CSDb, so no one will be offended here).
I have no intention of trying to improve anyone. Sure it'd be cool if things would improve, but it doesn't seem likely (the Metalvotze guys keep releasing the same crap over and over, Scene World still don't play music while loading, after 8 issues and massive criticism, and Rock'n'Role's new magsys is actually worse than the older ones). All I'm saying is that you have to draw a line somewhere, and if releases are below that line, you should point out that they're absolutely pathetic and shouldn't have been released. And then it doesn't matter if it's a BASIC demo (and those are always pathetic) or a really crappy release that was meant to be serious.
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Merman
Registered: Dec 2002
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Puterman, you always seem to miss the point. Scene World does not have music while loading for NTSC compatibility AT THE MOMENT - I am working on using DreamLoader to change that in the next issue.
And just because you *think* Nafcom and Commander aren't here, doesn't mean you should insult them.
The only MASSIVE CRITICISM Scene World has received has been from yourself, whether it is on www.pouet.net, here or in personal e-mails. If you were CONSTRUCTIVE instead of just saying "It's bad", maybe we would listen to you. If you compare issue 1 with issue 7 (which is all we've released) you will see a lot of improvements.
As for this whole scene activity thread, it is a waste of time. There are things happening, people post messages about them, everyone is entitled to their opinion on what is lame or not. Hi to Deev/Onslaught, the Cosine crew and all the other active people in the UK scene... |
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cadaver
Registered: Feb 2002
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Btw. if maximum compatibility is what you're after I recommend giving "lameload" (kernal routines) option for those drives (IDE64?) even Dreamload can't handle.. |
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T.M.R
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If it's just a matter of compatibility, the loader Cosine have been using since 1993 (and we nicked it, i forget where from... =-) is perfectly happy on PAL or NTSC machines...
As for opinions, just because they're not stated here or on Pouet doesn't mean that people don't have them - checking somewhere like #c-64 will get a little more direct feedback (as well as all sorts of unusual propositions...!) |
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fade
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I'm in total agreement with Slator, end this thread.. It's gone a little too far for my slow dialup and Miss Universe was on tv yesterday.. Miss Sweden had Black Hair..
Miss Sweden had Black Hair..
Nothing matters anymore. |
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cadaver
Registered: Feb 2002
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TMR: I believe they might be trying to also get compatibility with the mysterious drives more popular in NTSC-land, in which Dreamload comes in? |
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T.M.R
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Well it's drive and not NTSC compatibility then... in which case, maybe onefiling it'd be a good idea? Worked for Driven. =-) |
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CreaMD
Registered: Dec 2001
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Quote: Well it's drive and not NTSC compatibility then... in which case, maybe onefiling it'd be a good idea? Worked for Driven. =-)
Yeah!
DRIVEN!!!
Elwix, Coolhand where are you?!! |
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Puterman
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Merman, you always seem to miss the point of the criticism against Scene World. As you know very well, I've told you several times, eg. at Pouet, what I think really sucks about your mag. But still you always accuse me of just saying "it sucks". I know it isn't easy to react to negative criticism in a constructive manner, but lying really isn't a good solution.
Anyway, if the problem is that you can't remember, here's a reminder from the Pouet thread:
- Lots of text in the last issue of Scene World was ripped. I pointed that out. Nafcom replied that that wasn't true. Later you admitted that it was true, but thought that it was only about a third of the text in the mag, which you seemed to think was okay.
- The editing of the charts was awful, and as a result, there were tons of non-existent sceners in the charts, like Lacek. You didn't seem to think that this was a problem.
- "[N]o mention of Floppy." The message here was clear: try to write about what's happening in the scene, even if it means you have to write the text yourself, instead of ripping it.
- The loader issue. I didn't bring it up in that thread, because I'd already given up hope about that ever being fixed. TMR mentioned it, though.
I've also brought up these points and others earlier, in emails to the Scene World staff. And you can't be serious when you're saying I'm the only one criticizing you. But most people only try once and get a nonsense answer about their opinions being subjective, after which they give up.
So quit lying and concentrate of improving the mag, instead of just making excuses.
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hollowman
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 474 |
Puterman, you always seem to miss the point. you are the only one who has given scene world MASSIVE CRITICISM.
so i guess there might have been heaps of lesser
criticism. or perhaps noone can be bothered to care
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