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Fredrik
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Delta by Rob Hubbard
I am listening on Delta song 1 of 13 on my breadbox by Rob Hubbard made in the year 1987.
This was a song so much before its time
This is a tune i have found now, and not known earlier.
Still it is better then all i have heard in the new productions nowdays. How is? |
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iAN CooG
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cool story bro |
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Fredrik
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Thanx bro |
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hedning
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Haha! Best thread this year. |
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Cresh
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HCL
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Interesting start of this thread, and also it evolves into something kinda unexpected. Guess i'll be stuck here the next following weeks.. :P |
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chatGPZ
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why cant why vote for threads? this one would win! |
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Linus
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Je suis Ed Bogas |
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Jammer
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Sascha - deal! :D |
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Karmic
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... but how is? |
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TheRyk
Registered: Mar 2009
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Seriously, you're so right, Fredrik!
And it's not a shame to admit some gaps in SID education you've just recently "closed" with knowledge :)
There's sooo much to discover yet for you! Not only this Hubbard guy (quite famous, I was told), also Daglish, Gray, Galway, Ouwehand, Tel...
but SERIOUSLY-seriously
Quote:not known earlier
Where've you been in the 80s, you amiable Swedish reefer? Tree-hugging while all the dorks like us were glued in front of their computers :P |
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Angel of Death
Registered: Apr 2008
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Not to diminish mr.Hubbards awesome technical achievement with this tune, considering the available tools at the time, but it certainly isn't ahead of its time.
It is an extremely fine take on how 'dance music' sounded in the early and mid-seventies.
And why does it sound so different from the music today is probably because his generation of musicians had no precedent in game-music or chiptune or whatever you will call it.
So it sounds outlandish and original to younger listeners because their generation has never heard where the music of Rob Hubbard, martin Galway and other 'first-generation' c64 composers comes from. |
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Mixer
Registered: Apr 2008
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Delta ingame (tune #1) is indeed the bestest. Shame on all the pop-sid composers who do short compo length and structured tunes. |
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Jammer
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Lengthy tunes are not always of that much pleasure. I find sometimes Hubbard-long ones somewhat forced and tiresome, especially if composer has already run out of ideas and just wants to fill the space mechanicaly and compulsively. Nah, not always worthy ;) Besides, Hubbard covered other tunes heavily so no wonder where that playime came from ;) |
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chatGPZ
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delta ingame is a cover (in large parts) for that matter :) |
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Oswald
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delta main tune is a remix of the main tune of kooyanisqatzi movie..
skip to 2:16 its delta but very slowly.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t-t8w08QNJM |
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TheRyk
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It's no secret Hubbard (as many other top computer game musicians of his time) shamelessly covered whatever he could grab.
What's wrong with that?
Think of Picasso who stated sth like "good artists copy, great artists steal" :P |
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Jammer
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I guess it's as bad as Timbaland using C64 tune. I know cover needs much more effort than sampling but still it's lame making money on someone else's composition and idea (and popularity) :P |
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hedning
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Quote: It's no secret Hubbard (as many other top computer game musicians of his time) shamelessly covered whatever he could grab.
What's wrong with that?
Think of Picasso who stated sth like "good artists copy, great artists steal" :P
No he didn't. http://quoteinvestigator.com/2013/03/06/artists-steal/ |
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Zyron
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Hubbard seldom made direct covers of anything, he often used the basic ideas of tunes though (especially from Synergy) but with so much own interpretations that I personally find it ok and most of the time much better than the "originals". And he was not alone doing this. Both Daglish and Galway f ex did the same. I'm thinking Yellow Magic Orchestra and Roland Rat Superstar here as examples. |
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Oswald
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nothing wrong imho, I knew both delta and philip glass for like 10 years when someone pointed out and I realized delta is a cover.. its changed so much, I think it's almost all hubbard's |
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GH
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My goosebumps parts of Delta are all from Glass ;)
Great cover nevertheless.. |
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chatGPZ
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Quote:Hubbard seldom made direct covers of anything
oh come on. the better the tune, the more cover. |
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Zyron
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That one's obviously a direct cover, one of few. :) |
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chatGPZ
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if only hülsbeck had covered more =P |
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TheRyk
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Neil Brennan anyone?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dtch2HjmBQI#t=2m15 |
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The Gothicman
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I was wondering how long it would take to recognize the original theme from that 'Sanxion-part'.
But Groepaz did it! Thumbs up, although it wasn't too hard.
Koyaanisqatsi was easy to recognize, as well.
But: At least one cover is missing, I'd say... :) |
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
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uh, thats common knowledge really :) try looking at STIL.txt :) |
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Hoogo
Registered: Jun 2002
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I wonder by what Hubbard's Spellbound was inspired? |
