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Oxidy
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Bitmap Editor
I've been using the old thrustworthy fli/bitmap-editor from Dolphins a long time now, but I know there's an editor out there that doesn't fuck up the colours when changing the third colour. Also, the possibility to have different background colours for the chars.
Does anyone know the name of this editor (or one similar) and perhaps even knows where I can find it...
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Dane
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What about Crests Fli-profi designer, which lets you use the three leftmost chars?
What about X-fli? :) |
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Oxidy
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I'm mainly looking for a bitmap editor.
Is your X-fli editor finished??
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Dane
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Well, the version released with Digital Magic is surely finished, but XL-fli, that I'm using in Phases, was done in an editor that is nothing but beta and probably never will be more than that. |
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Twoflower
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And you don't know what's right under your nose, Dane? :-)
What he seems to mean is the classic "Bitmapeditor/TWI" coded by Tango in 1993, modded by you to play music and called "Bitmapeditor/3AD". I have some strange feeling that Taos bitmapeditor (also based on the Dolphins Ed.) have the same features, although with some alternatives in the save-functions. That one is known as the "SUXX-Editor Spec." |
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jailbird
Registered: Dec 2001
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For non interlaced FLI: FLI-Painter or Black Mail's FLI Graph v2.2 perhaps? Or there are several versions of FLI-Designer, also an excellent tool.
For raw multi-colour bitmaps I'd always prefer Amica Paint v1.8 where is an option of choosing the colour-clash mode (with "*" if I remember right).
Correct me please if I'm wrong, but as far as I am awared of, in FLI Profi (v1.0), one could paint ONLY on the first three vertical charlines. Or there is a new or another version?
Hey Dane, and what about updating the X-FLI editor for supporting a joystick? I mean, come on, we're not all nuts like you and can pixel with the cursor-keys _only_... :)
Khm. What's the deal with that weird idea anyway?...
I ruined something like 2 hours of my life by creating something I couldn't even call reasonable, shifting those damn cursor keys go up and left, and then I realised there's no way I can continue with pixelling without going all crazy (though I was studying dactilography in the secondary :).
Please, my Quickshot needs some heavy XFLI training :) |
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Oxidy
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Twoflower, perhaps that's it.
You don't happen to know where to find it? |
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Dane
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Oxidy - give me a mail and I'll send you a disk with different editors that I use, ok?
Jailbird - Well, if you're seriously considering giving X-fli a try, I'll consider modifying it for you. I can't really stand the joystick any longer myself, and do most of the pixeling in my emu with a userfriendly PC keyboard that doesn't have f**ked up keys, hence cursor controls. |
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Oxidy
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Dane - Thanks!!
I'm not sure if you mean a disk by snail-mail or a D64 by e-mail. My e-mail is: info[at]SPAMSUX.oxidy.com (I think you know what to remove to make it work).
In case you meant snail-mail let me know.
Another thing, I really don't get it how you can draw with the keyboard. Ok, I've seen the results so obviously you can ;), but how can it possibly me more effective than a well oiled TAC-2??
/oxd |
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Mermaid
Registered: Jan 2002
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Drawing with the keyboard rules...I've been using the keyboard for 11 years now, and would never go back to pixling with a joystick.
I reccomend Zoomatic (Zoomatic) for pixling normal multicolour bitmap pics. It even supports joystick if you really don't like using the keyboard.
It doesn't have fancy features like line drawing, circles, boxes etc. but it's fast, has 2 different zoom modes, loads and saves 4 different formats and has some other nice features built in too. If for some reason it should happen to crash, sys2880 will restart the program from basic.
There are also two different FLI versions of zoomatic, TRImatic by JFK/Triad and FLImatic by Olav "Omega Supreme" Mørkrid of Panoramic designs. |
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Oxidy
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Dane - Thanks for the many editors. And don't worry, I won't spread any of the beta versions. I'll check them out more thoroughly this weekend.
I'm thinking of drawing a bitmap which will cover two screens. Does anyone know of an editor where you can edit the joints between the images. I can use Cenimate which can handle up to 4 concurrent images, but if I want to pixel the joint I'd have to change picture all the time. It would also be great if one could scroll between pictures in the preview mode or at least view the joint in preview mode. I guess I can code the editor myself and get everything like I want it, but if there's one out there that covers my needs I don't have to. (Lazy by nature.. ;)
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jailbird
Registered: Dec 2001
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Oxidy: Big Multi from Samar can cover two screens, works like a normal bitmap-editor, and you can scroll the screen char-by-char with the cursor-keys.
I'll temporary put it to http://www.suonline.net/~arnoldc/bigmulti.zip
Dane: I anyway planned only to examine the editor, and perhaps to pixel a picture if I like it. And even if you'd include such a feature, I doubt that too much graphicians would have a try anyway, if you'd do it just for me - don't. I'm not worth the pain.
And I know at least two other graphicians that are pixelling with the cursor keys: Posion and Leon (both from Singular). I've had tried it once, but no way hose. Nevertheless, I like to hear the micro-switches sing while I'm pixelling. :) |
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Oxidy
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Jailbird - Great! I've downloaded it and will check it out tonight. Thanks! |
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Dane
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"I like to hear the micro-switches sing while I'm pixelling. :)"
Might I interst you in an editor that plays Deek's "Demo Tune 9"? :) |
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Deev
Registered: Feb 2002
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I've recently started pixelling in an emu using the PC keyboard as my current - hopefuly temporary! - living arrangements mean I don't have space for my C64 to be setup permanently (I just hook it all up when I have something new to watch). I've always been a joystick pixeller in the past, but now I've been converted to the PC keyboard. I'm not sure about using the cursors on the C64, but I guess it might be ok if I were to get used to it.
Dane: Any chance of releasing your XLFLI ed, even if only in beta format? :) I'm not saying I'd use it for certain, but I'd definately like to check it out as I was very impressed with your pic released at Floppy! I've always been cautious of most hires modes as they sometimes seem a little limited, but looking at the colours used on your pic, this looks like the best yet! |
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Dane
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Deev: Anything's possible, although I'm not very keen on doing a ready-for-release version of it right now. I'm glad you like my picture from Floppy, but in all fairness, Xfli gives you more colour opportunities, though it limits the width of your art.
Well, we'll see. |
