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2004-12-31 13:20
H.O
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Group id #307 : Science 451

I updated the S451-info with the most complete memberlist I could find.

Some info is still a bit vague though, so if anyone could complete this info it would be appriciated:

Nova - Not sure if the Nova I added is the same scener as the Nova that was a member of S451. The Nova in S451 came from Flash Inc and returned to Flash Inc.

CDC, Fancy, LLoyd, The Gnome - I created these scener entries. Unfortunately I have _no_ info on them.

Radius - Not sure if I linked to the correct scener here. The Radius that was a member of S451 came from Vortex42 and was kicked out at the Triad party.

Iron - Same as for Radius, except that I am fairly certain I added the correct person.

Also, if the list is still missing any persons, that info would be welcome.

I am also looking for info on when Dirty C was a member of S451, since I have no records on him.
2004-12-31 13:33
TDJ

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I know that Lloyd became an 'amiga member' early 1990 (he was my initial contact in S451), other than that I remember very little.

CDC was indeed a graphician, I used his logo in my 'Spiritual' demo for S451.

Nova was a coder, and a pretty good one too - he did this one demo where you had to move a scroll by touching joystick port #1 with a wet finger. Yes, the same trick that Black Mail later used in Dutch Breeze.

2004-12-31 14:34
H.O
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Ok, thanx. I've updated the info on Nova to include coder.

Hopefully I can find some more info in old memberlists, but since I wasnt very active from the end of 89 I am afraid any additional I can find will be very limited.

2005-01-01 14:53
SIDWAVE
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Hi H.O. ! long time no disks from you!??? 18 years bvahhh! :-)
2005-01-01 15:10
Nafcom

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Quote: I know that Lloyd became an 'amiga member' early 1990 (he was my initial contact in S451), other than that I remember very little.

CDC was indeed a graphician, I used his logo in my 'Spiritual' demo for S451.

Nova was a coder, and a pretty good one too - he did this one demo where you had to move a scroll by touching joystick port #1 with a wet finger. Yes, the same trick that Black Mail later used in Dutch Breeze.



sorry to disturb, but touching joystick port #1 with a wet finger? And in Dutch Breeze? Hmm, more info?...

And also I doubt that it's healthy to do that? I have had once receive a C64 with a damaged CIA, I have no motivation to damage a CIA myself...
2005-01-01 23:30
dalezy

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i survived licking a power outlet, so why not ..
2005-01-02 01:05
Nafcom

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Quote: i survived licking a power outlet, so why not ..

I worry about my C64, not me =)
2005-01-02 18:28
Raf

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wet finger changes resistace SID measures - do I think right? if you connect +5v and pot(x/y) with something you should get 0 in one or two registers... unfortunately CIA resides in ports too but as long as you're not charged (touching something build of metal - like radiator on wall should be enough) you shouldn't hurt ICs ....
2005-01-02 21:35
TDJ

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Quote: sorry to disturb, but touching joystick port #1 with a wet finger? And in Dutch Breeze? Hmm, more info?...

And also I doubt that it's healthy to do that? I have had once receive a C64 with a damaged CIA, I have no motivation to damage a CIA myself...


Just give it a try - run it on the real thing though, I don't think an emulator will work. Stupid coders Mail for not taking that in account!
2005-01-02 22:04
Nafcom

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Quote: Just give it a try - run it on the real thing though, I don't think an emulator will work. Stupid coders Mail for not taking that in account!

and at which part? the last, maybe? And won't destroy anything?
2005-01-03 15:58
Scout

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Quote: and at which part? the last, maybe? And won't destroy anything?

In this part:
http://girls.c64.org/p_durchbreeze_06.gif

About destroying the C64...well, it depends how aroused you'll get by fingering your joyport :)

R.
2005-01-03 16:51
Nafcom

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Quote: In this part:
http://girls.c64.org/p_durchbreeze_06.gif

About destroying the C64...well, it depends how aroused you'll get by fingering your joyport :)

R.


ok like I assumed. thanks.
2005-01-22 23:01
tlr

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Quote: I know that Lloyd became an 'amiga member' early 1990 (he was my initial contact in S451), other than that I remember very little.

CDC was indeed a graphician, I used his logo in my 'Spiritual' demo for S451.

Nova was a coder, and a pretty good one too - he did this one demo where you had to move a scroll by touching joystick port #1 with a wet finger. Yes, the same trick that Black Mail later used in Dutch Breeze.



Added some info on CDC in the entry. He was a graphician and musician. He was in Groovy Bits with Karl XII later on. Karl XII made GB-Composer, and they both did a lot of songs on it. Danko did a couple of songs in GB-Composer aswell.

/Daniel
2005-01-23 14:06
H.O
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Quote: Added some info on CDC in the entry. He was a graphician and musician. He was in Groovy Bits with Karl XII later on. Karl XII made GB-Composer, and they both did a lot of songs on it. Danko did a couple of songs in GB-Composer aswell.

/Daniel


Cool. Thanx man.

2005-01-23 14:59
Mason

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Another guy we need info on is The Gnome - I know H.O. doenst have the info (otherwise he would have added it).

Anyone here can help?
2005-01-24 21:54
SIDWAVE
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H.O. - any chance you can get me some tunes from Karl XII that are not in HVSC ?
2005-01-25 10:34
H.O
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Quote: H.O. - any chance you can get me some tunes from Karl XII that are not in HVSC ?

If I bump into him, I'll ask him, but you might have more success asking The Leader, since I think he is the one who transferred the c64-stuff for Karl XII.

(I am fairly certain tlr comes here now and then, since he added a review to "Groovy bits" and he has also posted in this thread. How often he visits though; I honestly have no idea)
2005-02-03 15:12
H.O
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I added some more info that I am looking for to the entry. Using copy&paste, here is the info I am trying to locate:

Gator: From late 88 to early 89 (cant give more precise dates, sorry) S451 had a member named Gator. The only info I can dig up is that he joined as a composer, and that he was kicked out in 89. There is a note in "Mega Demo" released 1989 that he was kicked out, and in the import of "Overlander" (imported 88-something, the intro is located at intros.c64.org) he is mentioned as a new member (and a musician). Unfortunately, that is all info I have on him. I have no info on real name, country, or whether he actually made something while he was a member. Speaking with Rygar (who is most likely the person who recruited him) he couldnt recollect anything about this guy either.
2005-02-03 15:48
H.O
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Also, I am still trying to confirm the membership status of "Dirty C". His email adress just bounces (that is the problem with hotmail adresses) so I cant ask him either.

It bugs me when someone is listed as a member, when I cant confirm him as a member in any way, but I really dont want to remove names either.

2005-02-03 16:24
Nafcom

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Quote: Also, I am still trying to confirm the membership status of "Dirty C". His email adress just bounces (that is the problem with hotmail adresses) so I cant ask him either.

It bugs me when someone is listed as a member, when I cant confirm him as a member in any way, but I really dont want to remove names either.



why don't you add as Trivia that you are not sure, i.e. can't confirm his membership? This way everybody knows but no need to remove him either :)
2005-02-03 21:07
H.O
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Quote: why don't you add as Trivia that you are not sure, i.e. can't confirm his membership? This way everybody knows but no need to remove him either :)

Good suggestion. I will do that.

Thanx.
2005-02-04 14:56
Nafcom

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Quote: Good suggestion. I will do that.

Thanx.


you are welcome :)
2005-02-06 14:58
H.O
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Another request:

I got a demo from Sailor/Triad (thanx man) called "Electric Dreams" which was released in March 1990.

This demo was coded by someone who called himself "IZE" but I cant find this scener anywhere. His real name is Stefan Toftevall and he lived in the Swedish city of Gothenburg.

I bring this demo up here since it is released as a S451-demo, but I have never heard of this demo or this person before. Seen to the timeline, it might match with "The Gnome" who joined around this time, and was from Gothenburg, but I have no records of this whatsoever.

Any clue to revealing who this demo was from, and whether he actually joined S451 would be very welcome.
2005-02-06 18:04
iopop

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some info about IZE, He was a member of Newtech (Had lots of members in Gothenburg ). I've only seen three demos from them. Where one of the demos are in co-op with the group Phantoms and supposed to be released at the Arboga party 90 which Should be this one; Phenomena & Censor Party 1990

Something tells me I heard about him being a member of another group too. But it might be that I'm mixing him up with the other Stefan's from Gothenburg.
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