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2006-01-15 19:05

Moloch

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Release id #26541 : Old Skool Demo

Because of the apparently inability by Wanderer to leave the entry for "Oldskool Demo" alone (he has deleted and re-entered the entry four times now) and take the heat like a real scener - I've posted this here:

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Submitted by stash_wd on 14 January 2006
muhahah 20 years of ripping.. why he keeps on fucking up rasters is coz he rips them from pal demos.. wanderer u suck

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Submitted by Naphalm on 14 January 2006
wanderer, a pity you have never done anything valuable but just bark on the others.

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Submitted by mermaid on 14 January 2006
Best demo ever! Twenty years on the scene! Wow, that's pretty impressive. How long until this gets deleted and added again?

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Submitted by Style on 14 January 2006
How the hell do you manage to mistime simple rasters in both NTSC and PAL?

And an 'FLD' scroller that bounces about 7 pixels? :D

Glitches, nastiness.... egads

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Submitted by Groepaz on 14 January 2006
pahahaha. how low can you get?

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Submitted by stash_wd on 14 January 2006
wanderer: from what demo did u rip?? muhahaha yeah rely lame to delete peoples opinoins and this demo sux

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Submitted by radiantx on 14 January 2006
We've discussed several solutions for better policies regarding the editing and deleting of entries in CSDb on #C-64... However, just like the problem with anonymous voting, I see few signs that the admins are taking things seriously.

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Submitted by Zyron on 14 January 2006
Yeah this is really lame, deleting & re-adding... The old entry should be restored & this site seems to be in need of some heavy moderating these days.

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Submitted by Murdock on 14 January 2006
WTF is this ??? kindergarden ? yesterday I put my comment and now I see that it's deleted...it sucks...

PS. Hobbit was the member of Venom, now he doesn't ? WTF ?

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Submitted by Slarti on 14 January 2006
Kickback told me this was a joke demo. I guess that explains it.

What do you get when Old Skool ends? No class! Badoom tish.

I agree with the original comments that have been removed here, calling something "old school" does not make it good.

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Submitted by Britelite on 14 January 2006
Yeah, it's still crap

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Submitted by Scout on 13 January 2006
It was deleted because the negative comments and low ratings of the original post of this release would be deleted too.

Nothing has changed tho; still one big pile of timing errors.

How sad.

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Submitted by cba on 13 January 2006
? why was this deleted and redone today?

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Submitted by Wanderer on 15 January 2006
Simon Scott is a moron. FLD scroller moves 15 pixels down, not 7 and is indeed FLD. Works fine on NTSC machines.

There are NO raster splits in this demo. People need to lay off the hallucinogins.

Works 100% in NTSC.

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Submitted by Slarti on 15 January 2006
As I said in my last comment, Kickback told me this was intended to be some kind of new year's joke demo, so I can't see why the co-author is so touchy about it.

Also, as can be seen from the saved comments that were deleted, Stash said nothing about ripped PAL routines. He asked where the routines had been ripped from.

Why would simple colour splits be so wonky? Even if routines were ripped, that wouldn't guarantee that they would appear properly in NTSC or PAL, if used incorrectly.

Anyway, I'll say again my opinion of this release. Calling something old school does not make it good. If it is a joke demo, then I suppose it's making fun of old school stuff.

What do you get when Old Skool ends? No class! Badoom tish.

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Submitted by Kickback on 15 January 2006
Ok once again I will add to this stupid thing.... My page... my CRAPPY ASS PAGE FROM LIKE 10 - 12 YEARS... IS OLD! EVERYTHING IN IT. The only thing NEW in it is a cheap ass logo made in 5 mins.

This is all childish shit, why delete shit? Why repost? Why Re-comment? All I can say is act your friggin age man! My kids do shit like this!
Questions or Comments about my CRAPPY ASS PAGE, you can find me on IRC. Which who would have questions? Its a piece of shit dug up from a crap disk? Everyone has these!

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Submitted by Style on 15 January 2006
Bugs like shit in both ntsc and pal. 'FLD' scroller isnt. 'FLD' scroller bugs like shit. Game is a joke (nice sprites tho). Author keeps removing release to avoid negative comments. This shows how insecure he is.

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Submitted by SECRET MAN on 15 January 2006
I know some groups which would use the first part as first release or better as Prv.

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Submitted by Murdock on 15 January 2006
Ok let me write this comment again. I liked this demo, it has a nice oldsk00l mood! The only thing which I've missed was the lack of the oldsk00l 3-colours logos in the last parts :) I think that the game part should be in the middle of the demo or even at the end, not at the beginning.

Right, this is NTSC demo, so I see no reason for shouting about bugs. Also personal feelings to the author of this release shouldn't affect the comments and the voting.

The one and only bad thing about this is that this release got re-added so I have to type this comment once again (and last time for sure). Please avoid doing this thing again.

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Submitted by Wanderer on 14 January 2006
An explanation on the Old Skool demo:
- The demo is mine, I coded it (most of it) and created the entry. I have the right to remove it if I so desire.

- There is no "loader", only a cruncher that does take some time but if not for the crunch, the linking would not have been possible.

- The demo is NTSC not PAL. So it is not possible that any PAL routines were ripped if it doesn't work on PAL (Stash is mentally delayed and has no comprehension of this). There is no flicker and the rasters are fine if you are under NTSC. If your small mind cannot understand this, I cannot help you.

- The game was made in 2005. The plotter made in 2005. The other parts were made in 1989 so it's GOING to look old. It's not going to have any transitions. That is how demos were made. You pressed space and it went to the next page. This is something to be expected even in today's demos from time to time. People just don't understand the pages were not coded in 2005 they were made almost 20 years ago.

- Ripped music? What do you expect from the 1980's. We're not all music composers and even today's intros and demos don't necessarily use custom made music.

- If you have a comment on the demo fine. But if you want to leave ignorant and unfounded comments because you have a personal grudge (Mermaid, Stash, etc.), I'll continue to DELETE the entry. Things like "Wanderer ripped routines from a PAL demo" when the demo doesn't even work on PAL shows nothing but stupidity.

Cheers!

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Submitted by Dbug on 14 January 2006
Slow loader, no intermediate fades or any efforts of transition, ripped musics, flickering rasters, uninspired and short scrollers. And the slowest dots routine I ever saw !
Graphics of the shoot em up part are nice.

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Submitted by mermaid on 14 January 2006
Wow, 20 years in the scene! This demo rocks. There seems to be a bug in CSDB though, since the votes and comments for this entry keep disappearing for some reason?

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Submitted by radiantx on 14 January 2006
Hehe, votes and comments all gone, once more. :-)

http://oldsk00l.50megs.com

2006-01-15 19:32

Wanderer
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When people stop leaving personal attacks in the comments, the entry will stay.

CSDB entries, if people can read English, are for comments pertaining to the release.

Attacking the person who made it, unfounded claims of ripping from PAL demos (totally bizarre), beginning back and forth arguing in the comments, are not related to the release itself.

Archive away... but the entry will continue to be deleted as long as PERSONAL attacks are in it. I have no issue with negative comments about the DEMO.

Granted, Moloch is rather slow on the uptake but this should be comprehendable even for him.

People still have issues with me and they are carrying them forward into the releases. Yet these are the same people who whined and cried about how CSDB was dead when this took place in the forums.

Naphalm, Style, Stash to name a select few really need to understand that they have their own community to cry over me, it's called SAW. Here's a free plug: www.swappaz.biz

I appreciate all the attention you are pouring into one little demo, but really... grab a life already. Maybe it's time to admit your SAW page isn't the little attention getter you hoped for and that's why you have to come back to CSDB with your anger.

Re-Edit: the code is from 1989 and it shakes, crooked rasters, blah blah blah. That's why it was never released in demos. It was unused material with exception for the game preview. It was really a joke to be the first 2006 release. Does it suck? Hell I don't like anything beyong the first few pages. Feel free to write about how you hate the rasters, hate the colours, etc. but when you start saying it was ripped (untrue), or bash me personally, then you are no longer being constructive to another coder. You're allowing personal issues to get in the way.

2006-01-15 19:44

Richard

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 621

Too much ragging in the scene these days :)

2006-01-15 19:45

Moloch

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Quote: Too much ragging in the scene these days :)

This is nothing compared to the old BBS glory days, n00b.

2006-01-15 19:50

Wanderer
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Groups are releasing games written in 1985 because a dusty original is in their drawer. Games being written are being re-released because you can train them.

But Lord forbid a programmer try to add one more demo to the already slow NTSC scene, even if it is 17 years old, for the sake of giving the scene something to look at.

Don't like the rasters being flickery? Great, write about it. Don't like the music? Write about it. Think it's horrible? Write about that too.

But don't say it was ripped from PAL demos (when it doesn't work in PAL). Don't tell me to "FU". Don't wake up every day and race to the computer to add more rude comments.

Grow the fuck up already people. The demo, as Kickback has said twice now, is not meant to be quality. It was a rush job and we knew it. Sheesh, KB had 24 hours to prepare for it.

There is no reason for personal attacks in the comments. None whatsoever.

I could very well turn around and do the same to anybody elses release as well.

2006-01-15 19:52

Moloch

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2006-01-15 19:57

V-12

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I hope that this release will stay on his place because I have enough of re-writting my comment about it :/

2006-01-15 20:06

Mermaid

Registered: Jan 2002
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"Grow the fuck up"? What is "grown up" about releasing other people's unfinished demparts?

Oh wait, I guess you wanted to "give the scene something to look at".

2006-01-15 20:40

Wanderer
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Quote: I hope that this release will stay on his place because I have enough of re-writting my comment about it :/

The release is staying put, no more deletions.

I've made my point and there's nothing more I can do about it. :)

2006-01-15 20:56

SECRET MAN
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Quote: This is nothing compared to the old BBS glory days, n00b.

Yeah,i remember several wars on the US-BBS and i remember the board "The Forum" with all the wars and a good Pudwerx,which came with good arguments.
But all what i see here is chaos.

Mermaid: Really nice new pic on your side :)

2006-01-15 21:20

Jazzcat

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Secret Man: It's a wonder Jason even allowed you on The Forum. Or any other invite-only US-BBS for that matter.

2006-01-15 21:34

SECRET MAN
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Quote: Secret Man: It's a wonder Jason even allowed you on The Forum. Or any other invite-only US-BBS for that matter.

As i called The Forum,David was not able to call out with his 300 baud modem or played with his mothers titts.
The scene ends as David started.

And Now ?? We have every week a wonderful preview.OH GOD

2006-01-15 22:31

Jazzcat

Registered: Feb 2002
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Actually Christian it was the other way around, as already stated in another thread, you had to buy your cards together with fellow-clowns like Marc, Max and Skinhead. Spending money on cards so you could call boards that weren't even in the elite category (The Evil Island for example).

Unfortunately you didn't have the ability to hack your own stuff, hence why you weren't present on the major boards consistantly over a prolonged period of time. You were on the German boards, just like heaps of local lamers are when calling a number in their own areas.

Pathetic.

2006-01-15 22:56

SECRET MAN
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Quote: Actually Christian it was the other way around, as already stated in another thread, you had to buy your cards together with fellow-clowns like Marc, Max and Skinhead. Spending money on cards so you could call boards that weren't even in the elite category (The Evil Island for example).

Unfortunately you didn't have the ability to hack your own stuff, hence why you weren't present on the major boards consistantly over a prolonged period of time. You were on the German boards, just like heaps of local lamers are when calling a number in their own areas.

Pathetic.

Youre wrong again.We had always an updated Blue Box which was coded by Lazyness (Olli-Bolli).I can remember this Taiwain Bluebox.We only made the conferences over At&t or the great MCI Family cards.
And i remember the time as you licked Marcs ass.True
So,what do you want to tell me?

Cant await the new Onslaught intro with flickering sprites of kangaroos,sid music from Men at Work.(Down Under)
In the middle of the screen the bush-man David with his devil costume. :)

2006-01-15 23:09

chatGPZ

Registered: Dec 2001
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are you talking about the bluebox olli "coded" after jihad sent him his? :=)

2006-01-15 23:22

Slartibartfast
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Quote: Groups are releasing games written in 1985 because a dusty original is in their drawer. Games being written are being re-released because you can train them.

But Lord forbid a programmer try to add one more demo to the already slow NTSC scene, even if it is 17 years old, for the sake of giving the scene something to look at.

Don't like the rasters being flickery? Great, write about it. Don't like the music? Write about it. Think it's horrible? Write about that too.

But don't say it was ripped from PAL demos (when it doesn't work in PAL). Don't tell me to "FU". Don't wake up every day and race to the computer to add more rude comments.

Grow the fuck up already people. The demo, as Kickback has said twice now, is not meant to be quality. It was a rush job and we knew it. Sheesh, KB had 24 hours to prepare for it.

There is no reason for personal attacks in the comments. None whatsoever.

I could very well turn around and do the same to anybody elses release as well.

In your usual form, you've gone and done exactly what you're complaining about.

http://noname.c64.org/csdb/release/?id=15750&show=review

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Submitted by Wanderer on 15 January 2006
Original supply by Stash, is that the bald headed pot smoking cock gobbler Stash from Onslaught???

As anyone can see from the archived comments on your release, this comment is far more abusive than anything left for "old skool".

Both sides of this just illustrate the same point all over again, CSDb needs to be properly moderated and perhaps ruled with an iron fist.

One side illustrates this more than the other, of course, due to the blatant trolling and baiting that has been going on unhindered for months now. It's even attracting other infamous CSDb trolls back into the fold.

CSDb V2 will not solve this problem, there is an obvious need to enlist more admins who have the time to deal with such melodrama that is ruining the CSDb experience so this kind of ridiculous behaviour can be put to rest.

And that, is all I have to say about that.

"Out of moderation a pure happiness springs."
Johann Wolfgang Von Goethe

"Only actions give life strength; only moderation gives it charm."
Jean Paul Richter

"Never go to excess, but let moderation be your guide."
Cicero

"Complete abstinence is easier than perfect moderation."
Saint Augustine

2006-01-15 23:57

Jazzcat

Registered: Feb 2002
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Secret Man: talking out your ass again. It was Max and Skinhead I spoke to, hardly had any contact with Marc at all. Regarding Blueboxing, which the the easiest form of phreaking in my opinion, interesting what Groepaz said there about OB. Hahaha. You lose on so many counts.

2006-01-15 23:58

SECRET MAN
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Quote: are you talking about the bluebox olli "coded" after jihad sent him his? :=)

WE dont know it,but if i think about the person "Olli-Bolli"
i would say,that he stole the code from Jihad

2006-01-16 00:02

Wanderer
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Actually I've let his comments go for far too long.

"press DEL u fucking retard.." is abusive, not to mention the ones that you didn't read before they were removed.

On that note Damian, it is rather creepy to know that around the clock you'll login to come peek at my release and archive it. This, coming from the boy who once cried "I'm being stalked". It's nice to know there are dedicated people like you and Moloch who will sign in multiple times a day for the sole purpose of looking at my release and archiving the comments. Why you concern yourself with me, I'll never know but you are the guy who is fucked up on drugs.

Yes we need moderation. The attacks began a long time ago when Lazlo opened his mouth with verbal abuse. It was not initiated by me. And yep, that entry is doing the same thing he's done to me. But I've decided if other people can get away with abusive comments (NOT negative ones) than I will just turn around and do it right back.

So let's borrow a page from Stash and use his language:

Stash is a fucking moron who contributed nothing to the scene except his semen-stained saliva which was used to lick stamps on mail trades. One original supply and that's it. Weeee heee lets shave our head and smoke pot all day while.

As you can see, that sort of language really serves no purpose, and does nothing to improve the CSDB scene. It's only purpose is when the person typing it, has become too angry and upset that they are left without anything to say. Style and Stash are both two people who, have become so upset, they can't communicate anything capable of easing how they feel.

2006-01-16 00:03

SECRET MAN
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Quote: Secret Man: talking out your ass again. It was Max and Skinhead I spoke to, hardly had any contact with Marc at all. Regarding Blueboxing, which the the easiest form of phreaking in my opinion, interesting what Groepaz said there about OB. Hahaha. You lose on so many counts.

Its really funny to read all the arguments from our Crocodile Dundee.

2006-01-16 00:42

Wanderer
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You know what's sad? The people who run CSDB were hesitant to lock the forums, hoping that we'd work this out on our own.

It took them locking the forums and stating that they did not want any more messages relating to this sort of thing, to end things.

Of course I expected this to happen... now people turn to the CSDB entries to vent how they feel.

Poor Slarti is pissing his pants asking for moderation. The sad reality is CSDB shouldn't need moderation at all (look at Wikipedia/Pouet). I think when I logon here and find some guy who thinks snorting mushrooms is his life, has left 5 comments in a row on my release, he ought not ask for moderation. I think this is more an issue of self-control.

Jazzcat.. whined about how CSDB was dying.
Slarti... whined about how CSDB was dying.
Stash... claimed he was ending this entirely and to visit his page.
Style... claimed things were dying and how I needed to go.

And now every one of the above mentioned people are themselves leaving ignorant comments that really reflect a personal view instead of a view of the demo.

Something about Australia, it breeds hypocracy and stupidity. Moderate yourselves first. :)

2006-01-16 00:54

Deev

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Can anyone explain why people get so wound up by the opinions of someone they think to be an arsehole?

2006-01-16 00:57

Wanderer
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Quote: Can anyone explain why people get so wound up by the opinions of someone they think to be an arsehole?

These people are the same ones who kept saying, "oh just ignore him and he will go away" or "he is a troll".

Poor Damian cried a river of tears about the injustice done to him, asked for moderation and said that what was done by the mods was too little and too late. He even had the gaul to call me a troll. His butt-buddy Style agreed.

Now he logs in daily to worship my entry, archive it and make 5 comments in a row about it.

How do you ignore someone or call them a troll when you're chasing after their entries literally every hour? He almost falls into the same category of kook as Stash for devoting a web page to me.

How ghey.... but then again, I totally understand Damian has never been able to release all that hurt inside him.

2006-01-16 01:04

Jazzcat

Registered: Feb 2002
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Quote: These people are the same ones who kept saying, "oh just ignore him and he will go away" or "he is a troll".

Poor Damian cried a river of tears about the injustice done to him, asked for moderation and said that what was done by the mods was too little and too late. He even had the gaul to call me a troll. His butt-buddy Style agreed.

Now he logs in daily to worship my entry, archive it and make 5 comments in a row about it.

How do you ignore someone or call them a troll when you're chasing after their entries literally every hour? He almost falls into the same category of kook as Stash for devoting a web page to me.

How ghey.... but then again, I totally understand Damian has never been able to release all that hurt inside him.

What a ridiculously racist statement. Obviously it shows the lack of humanity by the person who created the post and is irrelevant to the origins of our discussion, which regards this database and the C64.

No wonder the numbers are against Wanderer (and Secret Man) - fools behaving like fools.

2006-01-16 01:06

Wanderer
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Quote: What a ridiculously racist statement. Obviously it shows the lack of humanity by the person who created the post and is irrelevant to the origins of our discussion, which regards this database and the C64.

No wonder the numbers are against Wanderer (and Secret Man) - fools behaving like fools.

There wasn't a single racist word in the entire message. LMAO

http://catb.org/~esr/jargon/html/K/kook.html

The ONSLAUGHT of stupidity continues... and it's migratory path appears to hail from Australia.

Kudos to Moloch for creating a useless thread.

I'm done with this thread... too many stupid people.

2006-01-16 02:16

Jazzcat

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The fact that your bundling up all Australians into one statement that is irrelevant to the origins of this conversation is proof that your as retarded and lame as the reputation that has proceeded you.

Why are so many people having disagreements with you?

Deeds not words are remember.

Anyone can write a thread of bullshit and so far all I've seen from you is threads full of shit and crappy demos with no substance or skill. No wonder your the butt of jokes in the scene. Yoru attempts are laughable entertainment.

2006-01-16 02:42

Wanderer
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Quote: The fact that your bundling up all Australians into one statement that is irrelevant to the origins of this conversation is proof that your as retarded and lame as the reputation that has proceeded you.

Why are so many people having disagreements with you?

Deeds not words are remember.

Anyone can write a thread of bullshit and so far all I've seen from you is threads full of shit and crappy demos with no substance or skill. No wonder your the butt of jokes in the scene. Yoru attempts are laughable entertainment.

>Why are so many people having disagreements with you?

Stash - idiot upset over what Slarti told him
Slarti - upset that he was outed as a druggee
Style - backing up his buddy Slarti
yourself - you admitted in PM that you have to stick up for Slarti

Most everyone won't get involved :)

So you are saying Australians are now a RACE of their own? Please come back and defend that argument when your drugs wear off and you're coherent.

Idiot.

2006-01-16 02:43

Slartibartfast
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For the record, for the person who seems to not understand how CSDb entries work, I left a comment, info on the hidden part, trivia and goofs. I think that is actually four comments, and considering they are all entered on the same form, it's not so surprising.

Anyway, this is clearly Wanderer baiting in his usual trolling fashion, although it's interesting to note he's begun attacking CSDb administration as well.

Have fun with your trolling playground while it's still tolerated.

2006-01-16 02:51

Wanderer
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Quote: For the record, for the person who seems to not understand how CSDb entries work, I left a comment, info on the hidden part, trivia and goofs. I think that is actually four comments, and considering they are all entered on the same form, it's not so surprising.

Anyway, this is clearly Wanderer baiting in his usual trolling fashion, although it's interesting to note he's begun attacking CSDb administration as well.

Have fun with your trolling playground while it's still tolerated.

I thought a troll was an attempt to get a response from someone. YOU make a choice every day, to go look up MY demo, read the comments, save them to your PC and upload them to 50megs. YOU then add comments to it.

Clearly you're on acid again. If I kept putting entries in your entries, I would be the troll and you'd be the one defending yourself from said troll. But of course I must be asking for attention by trying to rid my entries from people like you. Oh Damian, your mind works in mysterious ways.

The ONSLAUGHT of stupidity still marches forth from Australia.

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I don't think it's possible to become addicted to nicotine through mixing
tobacco with mull though. All it does for me is ruin the natural flavours of
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Zik man, yer have saved channel 7 from certain doom! I was dead set on
recording ren n stimpy this morn, set the recorder n all, and it wouldve
been all fer a crappy pre-pubescent dinosaur toon!!! Let's just say that the
channel 7 mailbag would've had a nasty surprise innit, hehehe
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'ehp, i found my fave trippy toy on my first shroom trip. It was a few days
after the town show, and there was a lot of debris lyin about. We were
trudgin thru the field, picking our fungi friends and wot did i find? A cool
rubber ant! hehe... the strangest thing i find about having a trippy
possesion tho, is that at times just looking at it'll get me into a trippy
mood, which is understandable i guess...
freako.749600039@suburbia

well... I'd think it's fair to say that nutmeg is to be avoided at all
costs... I (stupidly i admit, no flames please) ate 125g, it knocked me out
for 4 days and I had a plasticiney hangover for a week... i honestly thought
i'd permenantly fucked myself up, not a good feeling i tell ya...
freako.749709849@suburbia

Hmmm... Well I've not tried DM yet, tho a FOAF may soon, heh... But I had
a similar experience to the one you describe on my first shroom trip.
It was a very sunny day, and i was in a park with five or six other tripping
friends. I was in an extremely happy mood, tho i had one problem...
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were just going off into the distance). I mean, picture a guy in a town park
happily shouting to all who pass by "Hey, you're shrinkin! How dya do
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2006-01-16 02:55

Slartibartfast
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Well, this is exactly the behaviour you assured Perff and Cyberbrain that you would stop. You promised them that in return for leniency.

Now you can't edit it, let's see if you get away with this trolling for much longer.

2006-01-16 02:59

Wanderer
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Quote: Well, this is exactly the behaviour you assured Perff and Cyberbrain that you would stop. You promised them that in return for leniency.

Now you can't edit it, let's see if you get away with this trolling for much longer.

There is no troll you fucking drug abusing nitwit.

There is only you continuing to seek out my entries and comment on them. If I am such a bad coder, so below you, why concern yourself with entries for my demo?

You live for me. Go away, seriously.

You will also recall the admins asked all to stop the threads pertaining to me, yet Moloch and Mermaid began new ones and you, along with your other Australian friends, joined in.

You can't attack my entry daily and turn around to say I'm breaking rules. Go take some nutmeg you fucking kook.

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the smoke, and a buzz/rush that usually makes me feel sick.
Message-ID: <freako.771153078@suburbia>

Zik man, yer have saved channel 7 from certain doom! I was dead set on
recording ren n stimpy this morn, set the recorder n all, and it wouldve
been all fer a crappy pre-pubescent dinosaur toon!!! Let's just say that the
channel 7 mailbag would've had a nasty surprise innit, hehehe
freako.749712510@suburbia

'ehp, i found my fave trippy toy on my first shroom trip. It was a few days
after the town show, and there was a lot of debris lyin about. We were
trudgin thru the field, picking our fungi friends and wot did i find? A cool
rubber ant! hehe... the strangest thing i find about having a trippy
possesion tho, is that at times just looking at it'll get me into a trippy
mood, which is understandable i guess...
freako.749600039@suburbia

well... I'd think it's fair to say that nutmeg is to be avoided at all
costs... I (stupidly i admit, no flames please) ate 125g, it knocked me out
for 4 days and I had a plasticiney hangover for a week... i honestly thought
i'd permenantly fucked myself up, not a good feeling i tell ya...
freako.749709849@suburbia

Hmmm... Well I've not tried DM yet, tho a FOAF may soon, heh... But I had
a similar experience to the one you describe on my first shroom trip.
It was a very sunny day, and i was in a park with five or six other tripping
friends. I was in an extremely happy mood, tho i had one problem...
Everyone was shrinking and growing (my trippin mind couldnt figure that they
were just going off into the distance). I mean, picture a guy in a town park
happily shouting to all who pass by "Hey, you're shrinkin! How dya do
that?!?!"
freako.749607214@suburbia

2006-01-16 03:06

Slartibartfast
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I have commented on your release, Wanderer, which apparently is a joke demo anyway so I can't see why you seem to be so offended.

These comments are opinions, not attacks, I have posted no profanities, no personal digs at you or Kickback. In fact I get along pretty well with Kickback, he's a nice guy.

I think you're attacking the wrong person here, I've done nothing to you at all. Although I can understand that as a troll you're driven to attack the person most likely to respond.

All you're doing now is showing the CSDb admins how wrong they were for giving you so many chances.

Of course, you did actually make abusive comments on one of my demos, and a nasty comment on an old chrome demo, possibly even more comments. You've deleted them and are now playing innocent, CSDb admins have already been notified of this:

User Comment
Submitted by Wanderer on 16 January 2006
Who made this piece of shit? It looks like it was done by someone who takes acid all the time and smokes up daily.

And that, is all I have to say about that.

2006-01-16 03:10

Wanderer
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Quote: I have commented on your release, Wanderer, which apparently is a joke demo anyway so I can't see why you seem to be so offended.

These comments are opinions, not attacks, I have posted no profanities, no personal digs at you or Kickback. In fact I get along pretty well with Kickback, he's a nice guy.

I think you're attacking the wrong person here, I've done nothing to you at all. Although I can understand that as a troll you're driven to attack the person most likely to respond.

All you're doing now is showing the CSDb admins how wrong they were for giving you so many chances.

Of course, you did actually make abusive comments on one of my demos, and a nasty comment on an old chrome demo, possibly even more comments. You've deleted them and are now playing innocent, CSDb admins have already been notified of this:

User Comment
Submitted by Wanderer on 16 January 2006
Who made this piece of shit? It looks like it was done by someone who takes acid all the time and smokes up daily.

And that, is all I have to say about that.

You seek out my release, insert a link to your own page where there are ignorant and awful remarks about it, and claim I'm attacking the wrong person?

No, I have the right person in my sights. Comment if you want, but leave the links out of it. They are personal attacks against me, not made on the merits of the actual demo.

You are fair game.

p.s. It's creepy how you concern yourself with my release, and come back hourly. Stalking tendencies may be why your gal wisely dumped you, or the nutmeg thing. Nice, real nice.

2006-01-16 03:14

Slartibartfast
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Quote: You seek out my release, insert a link to your own page where there are ignorant and awful remarks about it, and claim I'm attacking the wrong person?

No, I have the right person in my sights. Comment if you want, but leave the links out of it. They are personal attacks against me, not made on the merits of the actual demo.

You are fair game.

p.s. It's creepy how you concern yourself with my release, and come back hourly. Stalking tendencies may be why your gal wisely dumped you, or the nutmeg thing. Nice, real nice.

Ah, you can't edit the personal attacks out after a reply. Keep it up, you're exposing yourself as the troll that you are.

2006-01-16 03:18

Wanderer
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It's no attack and I'll post it so you can chase it down like you chase my every move and every upload, you stalking kook :)

"p.s. It's creepy how you concern yourself with my release, and come back hourly. Stalking tendencies may be why your gal wisely dumped you, or the nutmeg thing. Nice, real nice."

There you go. Please be sure to come back hourly to copy the comments from my release and claim I'm the troll, as you upload them.

Kook probably drove by his ex's house hourly too. :)

Bye kook

2006-01-16 03:34

A Life in Hell
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Quote: It's no attack and I'll post it so you can chase it down like you chase my every move and every upload, you stalking kook :)

"p.s. It's creepy how you concern yourself with my release, and come back hourly. Stalking tendencies may be why your gal wisely dumped you, or the nutmeg thing. Nice, real nice."

There you go. Please be sure to come back hourly to copy the comments from my release and claim I'm the troll, as you upload them.

Kook probably drove by his ex's house hourly too. :)

Bye kook

How do I travel from this universe to the one where that is not an attack? I believe there are some string theorists who would like to have a word with you...

2006-01-16 03:52

Wanderer
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Fact:

You seek out my release, insert a link to your own page where there are ignorant and awful remarks about it, and claim I'm attacking the wrong person?

Opinion:

No, I have the right person in my sights.

Suggestion:

Comment if you want, but leave the links out of it. They are personal attacks against me, not made on the merits of the actual demo.

Statement:

You are fair game.

Opinion:

p.s. It's creepy how you concern yourself with my release, and come back hourly.

Professional opinion as Slarti's behaviour is actually described in the DSM-IV which we professionals use to diagnose behaviours:

Stalking tendencies may be why your gal wisely dumped you, or the nutmeg thing. Nice, real nice.

====
I can't prevent him from logging on and going straight to my demo. I can't prevent him from archiving it and keeping copies on his PC. I can't prevent him from keeping copies of my entry comments. I can't prevent him from thinking my behaviour is trolling when I do nothing but defer offensive entries.

However I can take all of my years in dealing with individuals like this, and see that he fits PERFECTLY the obsessive type.

He also falls into passive-aggressive. He will leave the forums claiming never to come back but leave small little insults in the one-liners. When they are addressed, he backs off and plays role of victim.

Many of Slarti's posts are designed, probably subconciously, to label himself as a victim. He doesn't address his own involvement by leaving comments in both entries and one-liners.

It's no surprise that passive aggressive personality disorder types have a history of drug use and see themselves as the innocent ones.

There's also the issue of stalking, in which one feels that have done no wrong but that's another issue entirely.

No, I have to say anyone with his behaviours would not be a candidate for a successful relationsip. Take it as an attack or professional opinion.

Cheers, I'm off to sleep.

2006-01-16 03:54

A Life in Hell
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Quote: Fact:

You seek out my release, insert a link to your own page where there are ignorant and awful remarks about it, and claim I'm attacking the wrong person?

Opinion:

No, I have the right person in my sights.

Suggestion:

Comment if you want, but leave the links out of it. They are personal attacks against me, not made on the merits of the actual demo.

Statement:

You are fair game.

Opinion:

p.s. It's creepy how you concern yourself with my release, and come back hourly.

Professional opinion as Slarti's behaviour is actually described in the DSM-IV which we professionals use to diagnose behaviours:

Stalking tendencies may be why your gal wisely dumped you, or the nutmeg thing. Nice, real nice.

====
I can't prevent him from logging on and going straight to my demo. I can't prevent him from archiving it and keeping copies on his PC. I can't prevent him from keeping copies of my entry comments. I can't prevent him from thinking my behaviour is trolling when I do nothing but defer offensive entries.

However I can take all of my years in dealing with individuals like this, and see that he fits PERFECTLY the obsessive type.

He also falls into passive-aggressive. He will leave the forums claiming never to come back but leave small little insults in the one-liners. When they are addressed, he backs off and plays role of victim.

Many of Slarti's posts are designed, probably subconciously, to label himself as a victim. He doesn't address his own involvement by leaving comments in both entries and one-liners.

It's no surprise that passive aggressive personality disorder types have a history of drug use and see themselves as the innocent ones.

There's also the issue of stalking, in which one feels that have done no wrong but that's another issue entirely.

No, I have to say anyone with his behaviours would not be a candidate for a successful relationsip. Take it as an attack or professional opinion.

Cheers, I'm off to sleep.

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2006-01-16 05:22

Style
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Blah blah blah

Did anyone actually read that rant?

I caught the bit at the end though - 'Take it as an attack or professional opinion'.... professional opinion?

hahahahaahahaha

idiot.

2006-01-16 05:44

Wildstar

Registered: Nov 2004
Posts: 50

Sir, this is my first direct message to you. I only going to comment a specific part of your message.

The part I'm quoting again below:

"Professional opinion as Slarti's behaviour is actually described in the DSM-IV which we professionals use to diagnose behaviours"

First, where is 'we' in this situation and what classifies you as a 'professional'. What you are describing is psychology. Obviously, you have never been the proper and professional pychologist/psychiatrist/psychological counselor. If anything, I would define your behavior has misconduct.

I frankly get bored reading about cries and rants about each other's behavior, trolling, and ragging. To be frank, it can all be better is everyone simply knocks the B***SH*T off. In fact, everyone should stop tampering with information on the CSDb.

Since I don't expect it to change anytime soon. I feel that it will go through the eyes and out tha ass*ole. The matters is just a social problem.

If there is a 'stalking' going on, I'd think it is best for those people to move on and handle their own issues.

I agree with the principle that comments should be reserved to making an opinion on the game. However, personal attacking should be avoided. Pointing facts on the other hand should be encouraged.

2006-01-16 05:50

Wanderer
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Of course you would reply with the weakest argument of all, that you "say" you didn't read the response. That's alright though, I know that you read every single word - and you'll continue to protest that you did not.

I know it's difficult to offer much more than your weak response because you now know I have years and years behind me in this area of study.

It does become rather difficult to defend one's actions though when 38 years of behavioural evidence (from the first DSM to the current one) proves Slarti exhibits passive-aggressive tendencies and obsessive behaviour.

I wonder what Watson and Skinner would say about him. Egads.

I think perhaps the best evidence was by his own words, when he said that I "troll" him because he is the one "most likely to respond". There is no such thing as trolls, only people who are unable to control their behaviours - eg. logging in every 60 minutes to capture entries. Also the fact he wrote "that's not funny" when I (as a joke) suggested handing out medications to people. Now I see why he took this to heart.

I would recommend that Slarti enroll in a clinical behavioural modification program. There is still a good chance that his disorders can be cured with a proper treatment plan. I'll give him a free behvioural assessment if he'd like.

Nite nite... back to sleep for me.

2006-01-16 05:52

Wanderer
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Quote: Sir, this is my first direct message to you. I only going to comment a specific part of your message.

The part I'm quoting again below:

"Professional opinion as Slarti's behaviour is actually described in the DSM-IV which we professionals use to diagnose behaviours"

First, where is 'we' in this situation and what classifies you as a 'professional'. What you are describing is psychology. Obviously, you have never been the proper and professional pychologist/psychiatrist/psychological counselor. If anything, I would define your behavior has misconduct.

I frankly get bored reading about cries and rants about each other's behavior, trolling, and ragging. To be frank, it can all be better is everyone simply knocks the B***SH*T off. In fact, everyone should stop tampering with information on the CSDb.

Since I don't expect it to change anytime soon. I feel that it will go through the eyes and out tha ass*ole. The matters is just a social problem.

If there is a 'stalking' going on, I'd think it is best for those people to move on and handle their own issues.

I agree with the principle that comments should be reserved to making an opinion on the game. However, personal attacking should be avoided. Pointing facts on the other hand should be encouraged.

Obviously, you have never been the proper and professional
pychologist/psychiatrist/psychological counselor
----

Really? My eight years in the field and certification says otherwise.

Time to move on to another thread... bye

2006-01-16 05:59

Wildstar

Registered: Nov 2004
Posts: 50

Quote: Of course you would reply with the weakest argument of all, that you "say" you didn't read the response. That's alright though, I know that you read every single word - and you'll continue to protest that you did not.

I know it's difficult to offer much more than your weak response because you now know I have years and years behind me in this area of study.

It does become rather difficult to defend one's actions though when 38 years of behavioural evidence (from the first DSM to the current one) proves Slarti exhibits passive-aggressive tendencies and obsessive behaviour.

I wonder what Watson and Skinner would say about him. Egads.

I think perhaps the best evidence was by his own words, when he said that I "troll" him because he is the one "most likely to respond". There is no such thing as trolls, only people who are unable to control their behaviours - eg. logging in every 60 minutes to capture entries. Also the fact he wrote "that's not funny" when I (as a joke) suggested handing out medications to people. Now I see why he took this to heart.

I would recommend that Slarti enroll in a clinical behavioural modification program. There is still a good chance that his disorders can be cured with a proper treatment plan. I'll give him a free behvioural assessment if he'd like.

Nite nite... back to sleep for me.

I am not sure if you are actually responding to me but your own behavior also needs to be improved as well.

Keep in mind that I think you need to enroll in a clinical behavior modification program as well. You exhibit much the same behavior that you speak of Slarti. I don't support Slarti or anyone in my comment. I have read through this thread and it almost made me puke as I read your posts.

I think you both are trolling each other.

Why don't one of you settle this privately or take this feud elsewhere and not on CSDb.

2006-01-16 06:04

A Life in Hell
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You're getting up in the middle of the night to answer CSDB threads? Man, that shows a dedication to waring that I simply cannot relate to. Fuck, I'd be lucky to get up if the house was burning down around me :-p.

2006-01-16 06:15

Wildstar

Registered: Nov 2004
Posts: 50

Quote: Obviously, you have never been the proper and professional
pychologist/psychiatrist/psychological counselor
----

Really? My eight years in the field and certification says otherwise.

Time to move on to another thread... bye

[Editing post due to uselessness of original content]

2006-01-16 10:23

Style

Registered: Jun 2004
Posts: 498

blah blah blah

So now he's a psychologist?

hahahahahahaha

what's it gonna be next week?

idiot.

2006-01-16 10:46

SECRET MAN
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Many many trouble about an one-file demo.

2006-01-16 15:00

Wanderer
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Actually I have always been a psychologist. I began on the bottom end of the totem-pole as a part-time employee dealing with children. Worked my way up to full time a year later, and when the current Executive Director left, I was voted to take over by the board of directors. I no longer work with the clients, I oversee the day to day operations. It's a great job but those eight years sure do help with dealing with kooks like you :)

I noticed that the best you could offer was 'idiot'. Which is good, for it shows me you were unable to come up with any retort or possible defense of your friend Damian. Your replies are losing strength day by day. *yawn*

I'm sure there are a few behaviours we could find for you as well. For now though, you're just a dorky looking guy with a bad haircut LOL.

Did you think you ever had a chance against me in the first place? I had Slarti reeled in like a fish from the moment I was able to diagnose his behaviours.

Oh and since this is the proper thread... Old Skool has always been noted that it was made up of old demoparts that were never used. For the reason they were very bad. Rather than fix them up, they were put out as found from the original tape-backup they came from. All this excitement over 17 year old rejected intros put out as a joke. Oh my, how I like to watch you clowns dance. Can you and Slarti do the cha-cha for me next?

Gotta run back to work... ciao :)

2006-01-16 15:01

Wanderer
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Quote: You're getting up in the middle of the night to answer CSDB threads? Man, that shows a dedication to waring that I simply cannot relate to. Fuck, I'd be lucky to get up if the house was burning down around me :-p.

lol... forgot to shut off the speakers on the bedroom computer :)

2006-01-16 15:46

Matt

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 598

Quote: Youre wrong again.We had always an updated Blue Box which was coded by Lazyness (Olli-Bolli).I can remember this Taiwain Bluebox.We only made the conferences over At&t or the great MCI Family cards.
And i remember the time as you licked Marcs ass.True
So,what do you want to tell me?

Cant await the new Onslaught intro with flickering sprites of kangaroos,sid music from Men at Work.(Down Under)
In the middle of the screen the bush-man David with his devil costume. :)

admit it, the kangaroo thing haha
this is a good one LOL 8)

I told you before secretman, you're way too funny chill down mate 8)

2006-01-16 17:27

SECRET MAN
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Ok here we have the sid

http://noname.c64.org/csdb/release/?id=26574

Now we need the kangoroo.Stash can do this job.So we dont need to improvise

2006-01-16 18:38

Jazzcat

Registered: Feb 2002
Posts: 1044

Awesome effort!!!!

LOL

2006-01-17 00:20

Style

Registered: Jun 2004
Posts: 498

Quote: Actually I have always been a psychologist. I began on the bottom end of the totem-pole as a part-time employee dealing with children. Worked my way up to full time a year later, and when the current Executive Director left, I was voted to take over by the board of directors. I no longer work with the clients, I oversee the day to day operations. It's a great job but those eight years sure do help with dealing with kooks like you :)

I noticed that the best you could offer was 'idiot'. Which is good, for it shows me you were unable to come up with any retort or possible defense of your friend Damian. Your replies are losing strength day by day. *yawn*

I'm sure there are a few behaviours we could find for you as well. For now though, you're just a dorky looking guy with a bad haircut LOL.

Did you think you ever had a chance against me in the first place? I had Slarti reeled in like a fish from the moment I was able to diagnose his behaviours.

Oh and since this is the proper thread... Old Skool has always been noted that it was made up of old demoparts that were never used. For the reason they were very bad. Rather than fix them up, they were put out as found from the original tape-backup they came from. All this excitement over 17 year old rejected intros put out as a joke. Oh my, how I like to watch you clowns dance. Can you and Slarti do the cha-cha for me next?

Gotta run back to work... ciao :)

Oh, Ive got no doubts youre talking out your ass.

Any psychologist with an ounce of professional integrity a) wouldnt post such nonsense here and b) would never offer 'professional' advice over the internet. So if you are a psychologist, which Im sure you arent, then you are the worst ever. It is just another piece of bullshit you use to try to stir things up. 'Passive agressive' indeed - saw that in a movie did you?

Diagnose his behaviours? hahahahahahaha. If you think the internet mirrors real life in any way perhaps it is you who needs his head read.

As for your demo, we realise it sucks, and we said it sucked. It was you who couldnt take the negativity! I welcome all feedback, bad or good. You might wanna try it sometime. Why post a demo you know is shit and then cry like a schoolgirl when people downvote it?

As for your post for my Genesis demo, I too realise it sucked big time, but its posted here as it was part of our history. It was my first real demopart and Im not ashamed of it.

As for my haircut, dude, that photo was taken many years ago... Perhaps you could pick on my (illness induced) lack of weight instead? or perhaps state the obvious that Im ugly? Youre prone to ranting about things you dont have the 1st clue about (eg slarti's gf), so lets hear it?

2006-01-17 04:05

Wildstar

Registered: Nov 2004
Posts: 50

Quote: Oh, Ive got no doubts youre talking out your ass.

Any psychologist with an ounce of professional integrity a) wouldnt post such nonsense here and b) would never offer 'professional' advice over the internet. So if you are a psychologist, which Im sure you arent, then you are the worst ever. It is just another piece of bullshit you use to try to stir things up. 'Passive agressive' indeed - saw that in a movie did you?

Diagnose his behaviours? hahahahahahaha. If you think the internet mirrors real life in any way perhaps it is you who needs his head read.

As for your demo, we realise it sucks, and we said it sucked. It was you who couldnt take the negativity! I welcome all feedback, bad or good. You might wanna try it sometime. Why post a demo you know is shit and then cry like a schoolgirl when people downvote it?

As for your post for my Genesis demo, I too realise it sucked big time, but its posted here as it was part of our history. It was my first real demopart and Im not ashamed of it.

As for my haircut, dude, that photo was taken many years ago... Perhaps you could pick on my (illness induced) lack of weight instead? or perhaps state the obvious that Im ugly? Youre prone to ranting about things you dont have the 1st clue about (eg slarti's gf), so lets hear it?

In fact, professional pschologists with any sense of professional integrity holds to fundamental professional conduct at all times where their message is public. Since this is in PUBLIC records and can be shown to the board of directors that he works for and the clients that pays for professional help.

I am safe for now to be relatively the way I am. However, when I begin to practice professionally, I would have to behave professionally when and wherever is public. Of course, I am studying for practicing architecture and this field requires professional conduct in relation to architectural practice.

Wanderer, professional conduct would mean to control one's emotions - especially in a field that involves professional advice in the areas of emotion and psychological behavior and helping people control one's behavior.

Old saying is that thou shall conquer his demons before thou giveth advice unto others on how to conquer their demons.

Wanderer, I think you need to think about yourself and how you are acting in your responses. Professionally, you should know when you speak and when not to. You are being setup for obvious traps and you are getting sucked in.

It was weak and unprofessional of you to comment about Slarti's gf when you knew nothing about it. Professional Psychologists do NOT show such behavior in public or public forums. It makes you look bad and makes your company look bad. You are 24/7 a represenative of your company as long as you work for them. Consider the image of your company you work for before you post and how that post reflects your company. In most cases, employees especially executives of a company are not allowed to post messages publically that is against the image of the company. If the company is of any reasonable quality, they will bar you from posting or drop you from there company and sever their ties with you.

It would be an embarassment to you professionally.

2006-01-17 04:07

Style

Registered: Jun 2004
Posts: 498

You missed the point - he's no more a psychologist than I am. He's talking out of his ass again.

2006-01-17 04:15

Wildstar

Registered: Nov 2004
Posts: 50

Quote: You missed the point - he's no more a psychologist than I am. He's talking out of his ass again.

He claims it. I'm holding him to his claim and hold him to that professional criteria. If he is professionally practicing without proper licensing - he can be in legal trouble. Like a layer practicing law without license.

Hold him to his claim. (whether you personally believe or know he is not - I say, let him set himself up for a fall).

2006-01-17 04:36

Style

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Posts: 498

hahaha, I just realised why he keeps crying about my haircut - in my csdb pic the side of my head looks bald since my hair is blondish and it was a sunny day :)

2006-01-17 04:54

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