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Moloch
Registered: Jan 2002
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Group id #4823 : GO64
What's next? Adding RUN, Compute's Gazette, AHOY, Cee-64 Alive, etc.
Did GO64 actually do something other than releasing a commercial paper magazine?
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BAR.
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Quote: What's next? Adding RUN, Compute's Gazette, AHOY, Cee-64 Alive, etc.
Did GO64 actually do something other than releasing a commercial paper magazine?
Dear Jon Mines,
yes demostuff, take a closer look please it wasn't me adding the paper magazine, here at CSDB. Thanks for the Thread, anyway.. |
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Moloch
Registered: Jan 2002
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Yes, but you added GO64 as a scene group which it isn't. It's part of a commercial entity.
I'm going to start adding every company that ever employed a scener. For example, tonight I will add Konami because Horizon/NEC/NEI worked there. Clearly a scene related "group".
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BAR.
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Quote: Yes, but you added GO64 as a scene group which it isn't. It's part of a commercial entity.
I'm going to start adding every company that ever employed a scener. For example, tonight I will add Konami because Horizon/NEC/NEI worked there. Clearly a scene related "group".
you can help this database grow by submitting information about the productions/groups.... |
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Moloch
Registered: Jan 2002
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A bit off-topic, but I will respond.
According to the stats page, I've added 348 entries here. A very large portion of the NTSC entries here I did years ago and continue to do over time as warranted. I've also helped CBA with a great many entries here (and TDD), confirming information and adding some when necessary.
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BAR.
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Quote: A bit off-topic, but I will respond.
According to the stats page, I've added 348 entries here. A very large portion of the NTSC entries here I did years ago and continue to do over time as warranted. I've also helped CBA with a great many entries here (and TDD), confirming information and adding some when necessary.
groups, Jon.
Not scene nor so called ELITE groups only..
There is a story behind everyone and so we should link the infos together.. |
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
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Quote:Not scene nor so called ELITE groups only..
this _is_ a scene database. commercial "groups" simply don't belong here, just like non scene related events, non scene related people or whatever else non scene related. |
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Fungus
Registered: Sep 2002
Posts: 686 |
commodore SCENERS data base.
Get it right, or get the f*** out.
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
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btw, wasnt the "go64 staff" entry already deleted once (for exactly the reasons mentioned) a while ago? *sigh*
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
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Quote:It seems you don't understand that sceners behind the stuff i add here..
there were sceners "behind" tons of other commercial stuff too. still this database isnt about commercial release, its about scene releases.
and hema is a scene group ffs |
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BAR.
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Quote: Quote:It seems you don't understand that sceners behind the stuff i add here..
there were sceners "behind" tons of other commercial stuff too. still this database isnt about commercial release, its about scene releases.
and hema is a scene group ffs
..isnt about commercial release ?
We will see..
Hemas member:
De Turk bij de Kassa
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
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Quote:
Hemas member:
De Turk bij de Kassa
hemas scene releases:
HeMa! |
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BAR.
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Do you forget cyberbrains reaction about CCCC ?
a thread done by moloch, too..
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it's primarily meant as an encyclopedia of the past and present (and future? :) ) of the groups, sceners, releases and events of the scene. (and yes, that means that annoying stuff like (scene) SEUCKs, recracks, lamers and whatever belongs here)
ENJOY! |
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
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and "scene" is the keyword there. there is a reason why its called "c64 scene database" you know. |
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BAR.
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Quote: and "scene" is the keyword there. there is a reason why its called "c64 scene database" you know.
(scene) |
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Twoflower
Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 434 |
Didn't I explain the term "scene" and what belongs to it once before? Do you folks wish me to state it again just for the sake of clarity? Ok, here we go -
A scener is a person actively participating in (or aiming towards participating in) what we tend to call the scene. The scene is a pretty open structure in itself, but it seems to have some restrictions. First of all, there is a tradition of using handles, aliases ment for shrouding your identity, creating a myth and distancing it from the ordinary world out there. In the old days these handles were a pure necessity for the illegal side of the scene, to obscure their identity from softwarehouses and their legal actions.
Furthermore, the scene has very little connection to the commercial interests of the C-64 community, even if notable exceptions are known to have existed. The best example of this might be the people active on the Compunet, a forum which developed the demo and which spawned a lot of creating people making games. Ash+Dave, Ian+Mic, Reptilia Designs, Bob Stevenson and Dokk might be mentioned. But eventhough these individual persons might be seen as sceners, the companies they joined or built are not.
Third, people involved in the scene usually has an active focus on either the legal (demo) scene, the illegal (cracking) scene or both. Lately, we even got a kind of hangaround sceners who mostly mouth their opinions on webforums and IRC. These show an interest in participating in the above mentioned events, although are to lazy or busy bragging about themseves to participate.
As a scener, you usually have a role to fulfill, organizing yourselves into groups. Groups are the very fundement of the scene. A group is usually a tight-knit constellation of people with different functions. In my case, I am concidered a graphician (and in rare occations cracker and musician), but you can be a coder, musician, trader - any function that furthers the groups interest towards the legal or illegal scene.
To clarify my statement:
GO64 does not fit in within any of the above cathegories. This is the case because GO64 is a commercial magazine. Not a scene-based magazine. |
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
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\o/ |
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BAR.
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Thank you Twoflower and it was a good idea to post "your"
definition here about scene, like in the other moloch thread about cccc. But i don't agree.
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Twoflower
Registered: Jan 2002
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I think you misunderstand me. The above definition of the scene is what a big majority of the former and current C-64 sceners would describe as "the scene". I would even dare to say that as much as 95% of the scene would agree with me on the above statement. Your opinion is a minority opinion in this case - here and elsewhere. You are entitled to have your opinions about this scene, and i'm glad you do - but don't think for a minute that your ideas are shared by the majority of the sceners here and elsewhere, because they aren't.
Be aware that you clearly are acting from a minority-perspective - and while you're doing that, know that you are working towards the general current of users here, not with it. |
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BAR.
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Quote: I think you misunderstand me. The above definition of the scene is what a big majority of the former and current C-64 sceners would describe as "the scene". I would even dare to say that as much as 95% of the scene would agree with me on the above statement. Your opinion is a minority opinion in this case - here and elsewhere. You are entitled to have your opinions about this scene, and i'm glad you do - but don't think for a minute that your ideas are shared by the majority of the sceners here and elsewhere, because they aren't.
Be aware that you clearly are acting from a minority-perspective - and while you're doing that, know that you are working towards the general current of users here, not with it.
I'm still wondering, why these threads.. ?
If anything here is added and don't belong here then the
CSDB owners will send an info and it can be removed ?
Where is the problem about that and to have another point of view, sharing with others f.e. born before you or a scener before you..
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
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Quote:If anything here is added and don't belong here then the CSDB owners will send an info and it can be removed ?
csdb "owners" (ie perff) for obvious reason can't review all and everything that is added, so if someone notices something debatable he starts a thread about it. simple eh? |
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BAR.
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Quote: Quote:If anything here is added and don't belong here then the CSDB owners will send an info and it can be removed ?
csdb "owners" (ie perff) for obvious reason can't review all and everything that is added, so if someone notices something debatable he starts a thread about it. simple eh?
Wrong, my CCCC entry was deleted before there was a thread..
And i'm really sure they have a closer eye on the stuff added here.. ;-) |
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
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Quote:Wrong, my CCCC entry was deleted before there was a thread..
maybe because it wasnt even debatable?
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BAR.
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Quote: Quote:Wrong, my CCCC entry was deleted before there was a thread..
maybe because it wasnt even debatable?
They thought it wasn't but as you can read after six statement it was for them, like for me.. And maybe for others quiet and not saying a word here or in other threads but adding stuff,
or sending p.m.'s or doing something.. ;)
After this thread NINJASBANE left and another guy..
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Yoko Tv Inc.
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Oh my god !! what a loss !!
2 morons less ... nah .. doesnt make a huge difference ... there are so many left ...
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BAR.
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Quote: Oh my god !! what a loss !!
2 morons less ... nah .. doesnt make a huge difference ... there are so many left ...
It seems you don't interested in their stuff, they had from the past ? It seems you don't care about the ones here adding stuff or active on CSDB.. ?
So why are you here ?
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BAR.
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Quote: <Post censored by CSDb staff>
Oh, the elite is back in 2007..
Don't ask people for originals to crack, so that you group can
add the stuff here, don't ask around for informations
they have f.e. for your magazine stuff. Don't wonder if you can't get what you need !
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null
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you people make me sad with all the fighting... =( =( =(
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Knoeki/DigitalSoundsSystem/GheyMaidInc/SwappersWithAttitude |
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BAR.
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Quote: you people make me sad with all the fighting... =( =( =(
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Knoeki/DigitalSoundsSystem/GheyMaidInc/SwappersWithAttitude
me too... |
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Mace
Registered: May 2002
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BAR.
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Quote:
please don't add him as scener to Hema.. ;)
Because i saw him before.. |
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Mace
Registered: May 2002
Posts: 1799 |
We all know Bunny is a member of Rabbit Soft Control.... |
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BAR.
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Quote: We all know Bunny is a member of Rabbit Soft Control....
K, but better post thread related stuff..
Why is he in these thread then about Go64 ? :)
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Mace
Registered: May 2002
Posts: 1799 |
Bunny has a brother who is an albino.
He got stuck on a glacier and was never found, as the search party couldn't see him (white on white).
This analogy was therefor used in this article of GO64.
The more reason for Bunny to be sad... |
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Mermaid
Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 338 |
Helloes! I think we need an "other rule" #5: please don't be retarded.
kthxbye. |
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Stainless Steel
Registered: Mar 2003
Posts: 966 |
I think, when people start adding pictures to a thread, its a sign it has gone bonkers and its time to close it. |
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Mace
Registered: May 2002
Posts: 1799 |
Agreed Joe & Vanja...
I just used another way of saying that :-)
So, let's lock this thread.
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yago
Registered: May 2002
Posts: 333 |
@perff: if baracuda did not remove GO64 when you check here, do not only remove GO64, but also baracuda, please.
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BAR.
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Quote: @perff: if baracuda did not remove GO64 when you check here, do not only remove GO64, but also baracuda, please.
because while i set a link to the entries done by thunderblade and mac gyver ? |
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jailbird
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1578 |
I just realised how much I miss Bamu... |
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BAR.
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Quote: I just realised how much I miss Bamu...
i miss not only him..... |
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jailbird
Registered: Dec 2001
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Quote: i miss not only him.....
You miss Nata too? |
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Trazan
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Registered: Apr 2002
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Closing this to avoid further trolling and crap in this thread, but there will be another one you can ruin soon I guess Baracuda.
Go64 should not be considered a group or is a valid entry - ifso, we could add all software companies aswell right away.
Sigh! |
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BAR.
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Quote: Closing this to avoid further trolling and crap in this thread, but there will be another one you can ruin soon I guess Baracuda.
Go64 should not be considered a group or is a valid entry - ifso, we could add all software companies aswell right away.
Sigh!
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