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2009-01-21 21:15
Mace

Registered: May 2002
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Group id #904 : Crossline

In A-Head #3 it is mentioned that a certain Iceman joined Crossline.
If we presume he's from Germany, like the group, it could be either Iceman or Iceman.

Anyone who knows for sure?

Same article mentions a Fireball who became a member of Crossline.
Might that have been Fireball, or was that another Fireball?
2009-01-23 13:32
Techno

Registered: Nov 2005
Posts: 4
I don't know, which Iceman might have been member of Crossline, but it is this Fireball, not the other one, who was a member. See also the fake demo release Born in the Mouth of Lameness, where he did the charset. Just added him to the record...
2009-01-23 15:17
Mace

Registered: May 2002
Posts: 1799
Thanks for the input.
Now let's find the right Iceman...
2009-01-23 15:51
Techno

Registered: Nov 2005
Posts: 4
I just read greetings to an Iceman in Plush's +H2K demo. I suppose this is the same guy, but, however, this doesn't help us either...

Hell yeah, I really should remember my group mates, although I never met this one...

But you see, I'm already doing active research work. ;-)
2009-01-23 18:19
Mace

Registered: May 2002
Posts: 1799
The Iceman in the Plush demo is almost certainly Iceman, considering the credits of his demo from 2000.
...given the fact that he is the only Iceman active in 2000.
2009-01-23 19:03
bugjam

Registered: Apr 2003
Posts: 2589
I contacted Iceman (ex-WOW) to shed some light on the issue. But I also assume it was him.
2009-01-23 19:06
bugjam

Registered: Apr 2003
Posts: 2589
Ah, email not valid anymore. :-( Maybe some WOWer can help out, or somebody from Plush who greeted the guy?
2009-01-23 19:13
Acidchild

Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 476
iceman/ex-wow is living in the same city as me and we have been in good contact back then. i can't remember that he ever has been in crossline and i think he would have told me. what i know for sure is that he had friends in plush. i'm not in contact to him anymore, so i can't ask him, but maybe there's an other way to find out.
2009-01-23 19:17
Mace

Registered: May 2002
Posts: 1799
Yeah, in retrospect, I don't see the connection between Crossline and Plush.
What's the logic behind the fact that the Iceman greeted by Plush is the same as the one who was a member of Crossline? :)
2009-01-23 19:32
Techno

Registered: Nov 2005
Posts: 4
Mace, you are right. Probably the only connection is that both are Germany based groups. But since both Icemen (does the use of the english plural apply in this case? ;-)) are from Germany, I agree, there is no point in my argumentation. It was just so funny for me to watch the +H demo and see the handle I was talking about an hour ago...

But didn't A-Head #3 say anything about in which funtion the ominous Iceman joined Crossline?
2009-01-23 19:39
Celtic
Administrator

Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 807
I would check out their diskmagazine zoom #1 & #2, around the same time that a-head was released. so probably he will be either in the news, memberstatus and hopefull addycorner with his real name...
2009-01-24 04:28
Techno

Registered: Nov 2005
Posts: 4
Ok, checked out Zoom #1.

There is no Iceman mentioned as a member of Crossline but in the addy corner there is a Iceman/Trans-X called Ingo Rubel from Witten/Germany. There is also a remark "Legal Swap" so I would doubt, that it is Iceman (Mace's suggestion #2) who was a cracker with PLK address. The other Icemen in the CSDb don't seem to match either, so I think, this is yet another Iceman for the CSDb... *sigh*

And no, although I strongly suppose, that this guy is the Iceman in question, there is no logic behind my assumption. ;-)

Zoom #2 didn't work with my emulator. Maybe someone else can check it out?
2009-01-24 09:29
Mace

Registered: May 2002
Posts: 1799
I found in Skyhigh #7 (October 1993), that Iceman/Crossline left the scene.

That's why there's no member of Crossline called Iceman in Zoom #2: the mag is from Summer 1994.

In Skyhigh #10 it's mentioned that Iceman/Trans-X was kicked out for ripping tunes. That's March 1994.
However, in Skyhigh #20 it seems he's back in Trans-X again...

I doubt (again) it's the same person.
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