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2005-11-04 17:23
Intensity
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Pulse in DMC 5

I have some problems to do a pulse in DMC 5.

How to create a proper pulse?

Let's take for example:

Pulse Editor:

01: 08 33
02: 00 33
03: 00 33
04: 00 33
05: 90 04

After one second there is a click in the sound. How to avoid the clicks?

2005-11-04 18:46
CreaMD

Registered: Dec 2001
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Quote: I have some problems to do a pulse in DMC 5.

How to create a proper pulse?

Let's take for example:

Pulse Editor:

01: 08 33
02: 00 33
03: 00 33
04: 00 33
05: 90 04

After one second there is a click in the sound. How to avoid the clicks?



pulse works like this

01 0800 (set some value)

02 0010 (this is value that shold be added +10 )

03 0040 (this is how many times the previeous value should be added - 40 times)

04 fff0 (this is - 10)

05 0040 { this is again how many times previous value should be substracted - 40 times)

06 9002 (jump to 02 )


with yours one ..

01: 08 33
02: 00 33
03: 00 03 (repeat 3 times)
04: 90 03 (loop)..

although your loop is too simple so you wouldn't even need that repeat 3 times..

01: 08 33
02: 00 33
03: 90 02

should be enough.

2005-11-05 16:00
Intensity
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Thanks Roman, I have got it!

BTW,

01: 08 33
02: 00 33
03: 90 02

doesnt work. However, your first example worked out.

I have another question.

There are different DMC 5 versions, one is DMC 5.4 by Samar! Which is the best DMC 5 version, the one with the lowest bugs and so on?

Is there a DMC 5 version out where you can preview the sound in the sound menu?

And what about HARD RESTART. How to configure Hard Restart in DMC 5. Can't remember to have read about it in the docs.

Best regards,

Arman
2005-11-05 17:50
CreaMD

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 3075
Quote: Thanks Roman, I have got it!

BTW,

01: 08 33
02: 00 33
03: 90 02

doesnt work. However, your first example worked out.

I have another question.

There are different DMC 5 versions, one is DMC 5.4 by Samar! Which is the best DMC 5 version, the one with the lowest bugs and so on?

Is there a DMC 5 version out where you can preview the sound in the sound menu?

And what about HARD RESTART. How to configure Hard Restart in DMC 5. Can't remember to have read about it in the docs.

Best regards,

Arman


Hardrestart is not configurable.

Preview sound in sound editor.. that's feature Orcan is asking from me for ages. I'm doing it this way.. : have a loop in some channel and press f1.. .. I know it's not very comfortable but it works. ;-)

My favourite is original 5.0 .. it eats a bit more rastertime than 5.1 though. To 5.0. I've added audible pattern editing and tracking.. also you can change speed of fast forward to extremes ;-)). I don't have link to relaese handy (I don't know if it is available on the net.. but Richard Bayliss shoudl have it around)
2005-11-05 18:50
Intensity
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Do I need a Hard Restart at all? What is it good for? I have heared a sound added with an hard restart has a more exact starting of the waveform. But is this hearable at all?

2005-11-05 19:06
CreaMD

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Quote: Do I need a Hard Restart at all? What is it good for? I have heared a sound added with an hard restart has a more exact starting of the waveform. But is this hearable at all?



in dmc5.0 is very "hard" hard restart. It can't be disabled, only if you disable hardrestart value writing to d406,x (If I remember right) somwhere the playroutine... I was using this to get better results when using speed 0 of the music.
2005-11-05 21:46
Richard

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Hi All,

I have now uploaded CreaMD's version of the DMC V5.0+ on to the CSDB.

DMC V5.0+

So if anyone wants this version of the music composer, go get it :)

By the way, I have left the CSDB release unprotected, as I was hoping CreaMD would be happy to do the honours of sorting out the credits & release date etc :)
2005-11-05 22:57
CreaMD

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Quote: Hi All,

I have now uploaded CreaMD's version of the DMC V5.0+ on to the CSDB.

DMC V5.0+

So if anyone wants this version of the music composer, go get it :)

By the way, I have left the CSDB release unprotected, as I was hoping CreaMD would be happy to do the honours of sorting out the credits & release date etc :)


Thanx a lot Richard. Just one more thing. Wasn't there some english readme enclosed?
2005-11-06 10:23
Richard

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No problem CreaMD, you're welcome.

Unfortunately CreaMD, the Read Me file had got lost. I was unable to find and recover it :( Sorry

Friendly regards:
Richard Bayliss
2005-11-06 11:24
Stryyker

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 469
Give up DMC5 and use SYNC. MAny things are similar, the pulse, wave tables are basically created the same but has much more power.
2005-11-06 11:46
CreaMD

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I agree with Stryyker. It's more powerful, comes with good documentation. ;-). Interfece is as spartan as DMC5.0, but it has more creative posibilities with sounds. We did a coop tune with Agemixer which won #2 place at X-2001 ... ;-)

National Park Grave Danger

2005-11-06 15:22
Intensity
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How to set the Hi-Freq Mode in the Sound Editor of DMC 5? In the docs I have read something about the Bit 3. But I haven't got it what the author meant.

2005-11-06 15:53
Intensity
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Ok, already found out how to set hi-freq mode...

But What about ADSR? Let's say I have a sound with the ADSR like this :

A D S R
0 0 F 5

Then the note doesn't stop playing, even if I have set a release at 5 ! I mean I can cut the note via the GATE function, but I if I want to create very short sounds it isn't advantageous!

2005-11-06 16:15
CreaMD

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Quote: Ok, already found out how to set hi-freq mode...

But What about ADSR? Let's say I have a sound with the ADSR like this :

A D S R
0 0 F 5

Then the note doesn't stop playing, even if I have set a release at 5 ! I mean I can cut the note via the GATE function, but I if I want to create very short sounds it isn't advantageous!



ok let's suppose that: AD SR = 00 F5

to avoid using GATE command in sector... do it like this in waveform editor.. (WV)

01: 41 00 (pulse wave with gate on)
02: 40 09 (pulse wave with gate off)
03: 90 02


of course you will need to have pulse table edited too.. (to hear 41 waves..)
2005-11-06 17:31
Intensity
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Yet another question.

Is it possible to switch off filter resonance in another channel like voice 3 like in DMC 4 (No Filter Res)?

For Example: I have a Filter in Voice 3 which goes up and down. And I want to have another Filter in Voice 2 which should have exactly the same filter like in Voice 3 (goes up and down too).

This was a cool effect in DMC 4.
2005-11-06 17:42
Intensity
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And another one. That thing with the ADSR we mentioned, does it work also with Arpeggios in any way?

When I have for example:

01 41 04
02 41 09
03 41 0c
04 90 01

How do get a proper short release with it, if ADSR is f.e. 00F4 ? Or isn't that possible? I think then I have to use the GATE command as I couldn't work it out in any other way.
2005-11-06 18:06
CreaMD

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Quote: Yet another question.

Is it possible to switch off filter resonance in another channel like voice 3 like in DMC 4 (No Filter Res)?

For Example: I have a Filter in Voice 3 which goes up and down. And I want to have another Filter in Voice 2 which should have exactly the same filter like in Voice 3 (goes up and down too).

This was a cool effect in DMC 4.


the filter is fixed to channel 3 only.

roman
2005-11-06 18:09
CreaMD

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Quote: And another one. That thing with the ADSR we mentioned, does it work also with Arpeggios in any way?

When I have for example:

01 41 04
02 41 09
03 41 0c
04 90 01

How do get a proper short release with it, if ADSR is f.e. 00F4 ? Or isn't that possible? I think then I have to use the GATE command as I couldn't work it out in any other way.


yes you will have to use gate...

or...

do it like this:

01 41 0c
02 40 04
03 40 09
04 40 0c
05 90 02

or for short noisy start of the sound you can also use ;-)

01 89 60 (noise wave, played in fixed freq)
02 40 04
03 40 09
04 40 0c
05 90 02

roman

2005-11-10 15:51
Intensity
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Thx for all your help Roman...

About SYNC: What is the latest version of it and where to get it? I only found version 1.0 on CSDB.

Where to get those good documentations?

Arman
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