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2008-08-16 20:29
The Mighty Bogg
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The Mighty Bogg Shoe 2008

I've done a remake of my old tune "Shoe" using new fangled PC multitracking software. I can email to anyone who wants a copy, or upload to the forums if someone tells me how I might do this....

Graham (Bogg)
2008-08-16 20:45
iAN CooG

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hi and welcome, http://remix.kwed.org/ is the place for C64 remixes. Post it there.
2008-08-16 20:50
d0c

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so the mighty bogg have given up the c64?.... you know there are alot of us fans of your early composing that would like very much to hear new stuff from you, composed on the c64 again..
2008-08-16 21:03
SIDWAVE
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Hey Bogg! i think you hold the record for releasing the first musicdisk. (Bogg album 1).

As they said, upload to remix.kwed.org

There are places to host your music, like scene.org !
2008-08-16 21:04
The Mighty Bogg
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Thanks for the reply! I haven't owned a C64 for over 20 years now, so any remixes I do will be PC based, but they will be my old C64 tunes.
Graham
2008-08-16 21:16
The Mighty Bogg
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Just tried uploading to the remix site, what a pain in the backside that site is, my upload was rejected, I may try again when I've got more time :(
Bogg
2008-08-16 21:36
Conrad

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Hi there Bogg! Nice to see a past musician here, especially from England :) I always loved that Chicken Song you made using samples of chicken noises, really funny tune!

I'd like to listen to your remix too... my email is at my profile. Also take a visit at http://www.commodorecomputerclub.co.uk/ if interested.
l8r!
2008-08-16 23:05
dalezy

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RKO may not be the best and friendliest of all places when it comes to uploading tunage. just upload it somewhere else and post the link for that matter.

so, do you have any plans on doing any new c64-related work? no matter if it's it done on an actual machine or an emulator, i'd sure love to hear and see some fresh work from you. :)
2008-08-17 06:28
SIDWAVE
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Quote: Just tried uploading to the remix site, what a pain in the backside that site is, my upload was rejected, I may try again when I've got more time :(
Bogg


I think RKO only allows 128 kbit mp3, and you MUST fill the fields of credits correct, else FAIL.
2008-08-17 08:22
The Mighty Bogg
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Yeah, tried 3 times now, have re-encoded my file using different MP3 software, its 128K, 44100kHz, I got the right link to my original sid tune on HVSC, but no joy, rejected every time. I'll find somewhere else to upload and post a link! As for doing new actual C64 stuff, its unlikely, I managed to find time to rehash a tune I'd already made, but making a brand new tune would be tricky. I don't even know what software I'd use these days, if I used a C64 emulator...

Bogg
2008-08-17 08:26
chatGPZ

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remix of "detergent" please? <3 <3 <3 <3 <3
2008-08-17 08:30
Stainless Steel

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If the upload page instantly rejects your MP3 then you most likely have made a mistake somewhere.

I've uploaded quite a few remixes to RKO in the past couple of years and never had a problem.
Ive had some remixes rejected, but that only happened after they had been reviewed by the RKO staff.

If all fails, try asking Jan on RKO via email what the
problem is. He's usually a nice chap and will answer.

2008-08-17 09:55
The Mighty Bogg
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For "Detergent", there's this remix by Boz..

http://remix.kwed.org/?search_id=214
2008-08-17 10:19
The Mighty Bogg
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And of course, the remix of "Jethro Walrus" on the C64audio.com CD "Syntax Era"

http://www.c64audio.com/productInfo.php?cat=R64SE
2008-08-17 11:54
SIDWAVE
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Ftang! Ftang! the BOGG is indeed Mighty!! :)
2008-08-17 12:12
d0c

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Quote: Thanks for the reply! I haven't owned a C64 for over 20 years now, so any remixes I do will be PC based, but they will be my old C64 tunes.
Graham


its always sad to hear great sid composer that once used the mighty c64, have given up on the c64...
2008-08-17 17:22
chancer

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Quote: Ftang! Ftang! the BOGG is indeed Mighty!! :)

rambones, if you just said "Ftang! Ftang!" on it own I'd remember the music disk just from that. hehe

one of the first demo's I ever got after getting a 1541 and it still stays in the memory after a silly amount of years.

2008-08-17 22:09
SIDWAVE
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I have added the samples to the sids, so they start with the words, then music plays. Just one of them somehow refuses to work, maybe i have to re-rip..
2008-08-18 07:56
MagerValp

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Give the dude GoatTracker already.
2008-08-18 20:51
CreaMD

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Goat tracker could help, yeah. Having a tune from BOGG in "The Last Compo (TM)" would make a nice finale ;-)

... ah yeah I remember you don't like me puting that compo on spotlight all the time ;-)) I'm sorry for that. I'm just extremely sid-music obsessed...
2008-08-18 22:40
SIDWAVE
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Final compo ?
why you wanna stop ?
go on until we are all dead!
2008-08-19 09:22
The Mighty Bogg
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I do hope we aren't referring to my dreadful speech samples from Bogg Album 2. A dumb-sounding 18 year old from the North of England thinking he's funny using Monty Python titles for his tunes. Is there an emoticon for cringe?

Graham
2008-08-19 11:54
SIDWAVE
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Bogg: it's classic! speech on C64 in 1986 was just awesome!

Crunchy Frog!!!
2008-08-19 19:20
The Mighty Bogg
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The thing I remember most clearly about doing Bogg Album 2 was making the 3D rotating BOGG sprites by hand. I think the balloons from Frak were floating up the screen as well. I've not run it for a while as you can tell, only to listen to the original Shoe whilst taking notes for the new version. Spot the deliberate pun..

Graham
2008-08-21 17:31
The Mighty Bogg
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Shoe 2008 has been uploaded to remix.kwed.org, currently awaiting validation by Jan, will post a link here when it is available for download!

Graham
2008-08-21 19:22
Danzig

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the MIGHTY BOGG... this is like when you know you are broke but then... suddenly find 100 bugs in your old stonewashed jeans... maybe you should start a band: the MIGHTY MIGHTY BOGG tones ;)
2008-09-04 09:17
The Mighty Bogg
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Shoe 2008 is now available at http://remix.kwed.org/

Hope everyone likes it!!!

Graham
2008-09-05 05:59
SIDWAVE
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The start seems flimsy, but its a nice tune with good sounds! but it's soft, where's the action ? :-)

What instruments did you use Graham ?
2008-09-05 11:16
The Mighty Bogg
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I know what you mean by soft, I couldn't get punchier sounds however I tried. The instruments were mainly Polyblit synth VST, with others by Musynth, arranged in Mulab. I wanted to do it all on legit freeware, and spent so long fiddling about with the sounds I got tired of the damn tune, so its as good as I could get it.

Sooooo many people say they prefer the original SID, and I know what they mean, but its my 1st go in 22 years, maybe I'll try another sometime....

Graham
2008-09-05 11:28
Mermaid

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Bogg, you really should give GoatTracker a try, would love to hear some new C64 tunes from you, big fan of your old tunes.
2008-09-05 16:13
d0c

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here bogg try this and you will get your punch back in the music..

GoatTracker V2.0
2008-09-06 01:44
clonK
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Hey Bogg.
My first post here..
I gotta say... 99% of all c64 "remixes" sound like midi files. The tune might be good, but the instruments are extremely lame. What makes SID good as an instrument is that it has a unique, vibrant, punchy character... such as an SP1200, Yamaha DX7, Roland SH09/Sh101, etc, etc, etc.
That is what all these "c64 remixes" do not have.. and that is why I don't like em.
Like I said though, it sounds like a decent tune, but for me it needs to be made with better gear if it's to match the sound of sid. Goat tracker would probs work too.
Piece:P
2008-09-06 08:45
SIDWAVE
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To Bogg: With a musical talent, and 22 years passed - I can imagine that ideas or desires pop up.

I hope this is a new beginning!
2008-09-07 17:41
The Mighty Bogg
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I tried Goattracker about a year ago. If and when I do any more tunes, it will not be with Goattracker. Things have moved on.

Maybe I didn't use the best software and synths for Shoe 2008, but I'm not going back to what is basically DATA statements!!

Graham
2008-09-08 10:16
SIDWAVE
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Bogg: try Renoise. www.renoise.com
it's a tracker. samples/midi/vst - easy to use, powerful, outcompetes many expensive large sequencers.
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