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2006-06-25 11:32
Bamu®
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Jch-Editor Improvements?

Which Jch-Editor version has THE BEST 3th-party improvements? (only the editor not the player)
I have seen that different groups/composers released improved versions, but unfortunately I don't know what they improved... any idea?

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Btw.
IMHO the way of entering instruments/notes into the blocks is quite boring.
Instead, why not use real tracker behaviour. (instrument-number is created automatically if the user writes a note down.)
 
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2006-06-29 12:50
Soren

Registered: Dec 2001
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It's a good thing to be able to manipulate adsr during a note, along with gate.. you can do some neat things with that. So I use ADSR on gate commands too.. not just on notes.
2006-06-29 13:46
Bamu®
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Quote: That's the way the SID works. You can't manipulate volume easily.

What I mean is:.. Jch doesn't allow to change the Release value after the note?
2006-06-29 15:24
Soren

Registered: Dec 2001
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ok then... well good I'm not using that one :-)
2006-06-29 16:11
Dane

Registered: May 2002
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Quite easy to fix thouhg...just need to change one STA really.
2006-06-29 17:00
Laxity

Registered: Aug 2005
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Or use NewPlayer 21.Gx.. This one allows for both setting ADSR (DSR at least) on note events AND every other tick.

Nata, remember that NewPlayer20.G4 (default in JCH) is made anno 91. The ADSR thing is not a restriction in the editor, but in the player!
2006-06-29 19:36
Bamu®
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...NewPlayer 21.Gx.. ..... but it isn't the real player :-D :-D ;-)
but other players/editors anno '91 doesn't have this restriction...
2006-06-29 20:04
Laxity

Registered: Aug 2005
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Well, there are several players for the JCH editor which Jens wrote himself, there's not ONE original player.. You must know this..

I don't remember too many editors / trackers being very dynamic back in 91 (actually I was more or less stopped in the scene by then, so I've got very little recollection..).

I wonder which editors/players you are refering to? I'm just curious, not that I have any personal expirience with any other player but my own (cough) and slight amount of expirience with Jens' ever so brilliant editor/player.
2006-06-29 20:09
cadaver

Registered: Feb 2002
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Nata, just what the fuck is wrong with you? If it's necessary to limit yourself in some arbitrary way (historical player version), then naturally you can't complain of missing/lacking features.

Btw. if some piece of music seems to have supernaturally awesome features for its age, it's possible that there never was an editor at all, but the music was written directly in source code or monitor.
2006-06-29 21:26
Hein

Registered: Apr 2004
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Quote: ...NewPlayer 21.Gx.. ..... but it isn't the real player :-D :-D ;-)
but other players/editors anno '91 doesn't have this restriction...


Name one editor released in 1991, that doesn't have this restriction. :)
2006-06-30 13:20
Bamu®
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Quote: Name one editor released in 1991, that doesn't have this restriction. :)

'sosperec editor' ... :P
Of course there are some others too...
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