You are not logged in - nap CSDb User Forums Forums > C64 Composing > Born in the wrong decade? 2006-09-14 12:39 faux Account closed Registered: Sep 2006 Posts: 2 Born in the wrong decade? I am an experimental musician, so inherently, I'm always looking for new ways to express myself (sometimes by rehashing the old). I am familiar with certain C64 musicians (Hubbard, MON, F.A.M.E., !Cube) just from being a fan of videogames and chiptune music itself. I've found myself using 8-bit and SID sounds in a good deal of my own music lately, although I've not been able to use the actual sound chips themselves, only VST emulations. Ofcourse some of these VST emulations sound incredibly great, but I felt guilty because there are many people who still spend many hours doing it 'the hard way'. That's what brings me here. I'd like to learn about making actual chiptunes, and not just songs that SOUND NES / Famicon or C64. I'll admit, I've never owned a Commodore or even saw one personally -- they're hard to find anywhere but eBay or someone's attic under piles and piles of stuff in the US, apparently. I am slightly familiar with how SID chips generally work through usage of pretty accurate emulations, but I'd like to learn any and everything I can about using trackers or any other inexpensive method of making chiptunes. Being a kid from the 80's (although my time in the decade was rather short compared to most people here), I naturally find a great nostalgic and maybe even romantic value in old school video game music. If there is anyone here who would like to help me become enlightened and educated, give me some pointers or good advice, I'd greatly appreciate it. If you would like me to be more specific about anything, just ask, and I'll try to explain in better detail. Thanks! 2006-09-14 12:52 chatGPZ Registered: Dec 2001 Posts: 11116 try goattracker for a start... 2006-09-14 13:07 faux Account closed Registered: Sep 2006 Posts: 2 Thanks! I should note that although I have used SID VST's, they're rarely ever if at all much like using a tracker. I have absolutely no experience in programming a SID, so if you know of any good tutorials or any pertinent texts that may help, please share. 2006-09-14 13:15 Oswald Registered: Apr 2002 Posts: 5017 this is probably too detailed and techy but better than nothing http://stud4.tuwien.ac.at/~e9426444/ 2006-09-14 14:48 CreaMD Registered: Dec 2001 Posts: 3034 Quote: Thanks! I should note that although I have used SID VST's, they're rarely ever if at all much like using a tracker. I have absolutely no experience in programming a SID, so if you know of any good tutorials or any pertinent texts that may help, please share. There are also example tunes in GoatTracker plus quite decent text manual (but of course judged from point of view of someone who already knew the environment and terminology). Anyway. From your words it seems that you are a decent and grown-up person. I'm quite sure that you will get all the support and a quick and helpful response anytime you ask. 2006-09-14 14:54 cadaver Registered: Feb 2002 Posts: 1153 I would recommend Goattracker V1.x or RawGoat first, 'cos they skip one additional complexity (the speedtable for portamentos & vibratos) Refresh Subscribe to this thread: You need to be logged in to post in the forum. Search the forum: Search  All forums C64 CodingC64 ComposingC64 PixelingC64 ProductionsCSDb Bug ReportsCSDb DiscussionsCSDb EntriesCSDb FeedbackCSDb InfoCSDb moderatorsCSDb QuestionsCSDb V2 developmentMessages to moderatorsRequests  for   in Writer & textTextWriter  All times are CET. Search CSDb All Releases Groups Sceners Events BBS SIDs ------- Forum Comments Advanced Users Online Dymo/G★P Røly/Mayday! Krill/Plush bOOZElEE Oswald/Resource Matt Jammer Guests online: 145 Top Demos 1 Next Level  (9.8) 2 Mojo  (9.7) 3 Coma Light 13  (9.7) 4 Edge of Disgrace  (9.6) 5 Comaland 100%  (9.6) 6 No Bounds  (9.6) 7 Uncensored  (9.6) 8 Wonderland XIV  (9.6) 9 Memento Mori  (9.6) 10 Bromance  (9.5) Top onefile Demos 1 It's More Fun to Com..  (9.7) 2 Party Elk 2  (9.7) 3 Cubic Dream  (9.6) 4 Copper Booze  (9.5) 5 TRSAC, Gabber & Pebe..  (9.5) 6 Rainbow Connection  (9.5) 7 Wafer Demo  (9.5) 8 Dawnfall V1.1  (9.5) 9 Quadrants  (9.5) 10 Daah, Those Acid Pil..  (9.5) Top Groups 1 Oxyron  (9.3) 2 Nostalgia  (9.3) 3 Booze Design  (9.3) 4 Censor Design  (9.3) 5 Crest  (9.3) Top Musicians 1 Vincenzo  (9.8) 2 Rob Hubbard  (9.7) 3 Stinsen  (9.7) 4 Jeroen Tel  (9.6) 5 Linus  (9.6)

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