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Petey21
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The "Name this SID" thread
This is a thread where people can ask for the name and composer of SID tunes from demos, if they don't know what they're called. Useful if people want to download the SID or update the database entry with music credits. It's helpful even if you only know the names of one or a few SIDs, and providing a link to the downloadable SID would be nice too.
I'm looking for all SID tunes used in this demo, anyone knows what they are called?
Barbapappa |
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Steppe
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Added sids. |
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Scout
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Quote: Added sids.
You're spoiling the thread, Steppe!!
You partypooper you!
Purpose was to *discuss*...and then add the sids. Some kind of foreplay, ya dig..?
:) |
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Motion
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Use this link to find sids, Petey21!
http://www.c64.org/sidfind/ |
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SIDWAVE
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sidfind cant tell you what sids are used in a demo.. |
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Danzig
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Quote: You're spoiling the thread, Steppe!!
You partypooper you!
Purpose was to *discuss*...and then add the sids. Some kind of foreplay, ya dig..?
:)
I smell X-2008 party brawling in the air... Steppe vs. Scout... bets are teh open... ARE YOU READY TO RUMBLE???? |
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Steppe
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Foreplay...? Enlighten me on that please. ;-) |
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Stan
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Endemic #2
Name of the SID? |
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Steppe
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Ramiro Vaca's Rock'n'Roll, subtune #9. It's just wongly cwedited. |
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Petey21
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Name of the sid used in the ESI intro at around 6:40 in this intro collection? It's not listed on that intro's entry here at CSDb.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wgle3x_XI3M |
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SIDWAVE
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/MUSICIANS/D/Daglish_Ben/Mounty_Micks_Deathride.sid |
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The Shadow
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Name the SID used on the link Petey provided, the youtube link, at 3:10, the ESI intro. |
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Petey21
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The Shadow, that'd be this one:
/MUSICIANS/C/Crowther_Antony/R1D1.sid |
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Stan
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Name of Danko's SID?
Rutig Banan |
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Stan
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Quote: Ramiro Vaca's Rock'n'Roll, subtune #9. It's just wongly cwedited.
Thanks! |
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The Shadow
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Thank you Petey! Back when we were in the old scene, R1D1 was just another popular SID to us. In this modern day, it is a song that could go into a zombie movie. Recently, people have been plagiarizing 64 SIDs, and incorporating them into their cheap pop, r&b and rap songs. Such a disgrace to the original composers and to sceners. No doubt why the music pirates would because if a person listens to a few SIDs, with no knowledge of their origin, they will realize they have discovered a treasure of intricate compositions. This treasure belongs to us, the sceners who were in the old scene and everyone who participates to this day in the very rich Commodore 64 Scene. |
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j0x
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Quote: Name of Danko's SID?
Rutig Banan
Im_Almost_There.sid |
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Stan
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Quote: Im_Almost_There.sid
Thanks man |
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Burglar
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I want to name a sid too, but I can't compose :/ |
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The Shadow
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In the demo Rutig banan, please name the SID on the flex page with the Pernod logo. |
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Mace
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The Shadow: that's Spijkerhoek.
Easy one! :) |
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The Shadow
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I like this thread. Edwin van Santen created some wonderful tunes. Much of what he composed I remember from various intros and demos from the old scene. He passed away in 2006, leaving the scene with some great music. |
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Stan
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Stan
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Quote: I like this thread. Edwin van Santen created some wonderful tunes. Much of what he composed I remember from various intros and demos from the old scene. He passed away in 2006, leaving the scene with some great music.
http://20thcenturycomposers.blogspot.com/ |
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Petey21
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Does anyone know the name and composer of this one? Not mentioned in the creds and I have no clue myself.
4-ever |
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Zyron
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It's The Last Hero, entry updated. |
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Petey21
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Thanks, you guys sure know your music! :)
How about the ones in part 3 and 4 of this one?
The Iron Dog Demo'004 |
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iAN CooG
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added all 4. |
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Zyron
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Added the credits. :) |
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Enok
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Biascrusher/Poor by Beyond Force & Origo
Poor/Bias Crusher
Some parts might not work on all emulators... especially looking for the tune in the bitmap part with the filename 'Zeropage' and the starfield part with the filename 'Stack'
Brainstorm 3 by Megastyle
Brainstorm 3
I have identified some tunes there but I'm quite curious about the other ones, especially the intro :)
In Memoriam by Lazer
In Memoriam
MegatoolZ -- Meganoter V2.0+
MegatoolZ
The main menu's tune is identified, however there are five additional tunes in the Meganoter 2.0+, one of them is certainly by 20CC just don't remember which...
Btw, this is my first post on the forum - great thread on a great site - thanks for the memories :) |
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iAN CooG
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Quote: Biascrusher/Poor by Beyond Force & Origo
Poor/Bias Crusher
Some parts might not work on all emulators... especially looking for the tune in the bitmap part with the filename 'Zeropage' and the starfield part with the filename 'Stack'
Brainstorm 3 by Megastyle
Brainstorm 3
I have identified some tunes there but I'm quite curious about the other ones, especially the intro :)
In Memoriam by Lazer
In Memoriam
MegatoolZ -- Meganoter V2.0+
MegatoolZ
The main menu's tune is identified, however there are five additional tunes in the Meganoter 2.0+, one of them is certainly by 20CC just don't remember which...
Btw, this is my first post on the forum - great thread on a great site - thanks for the memories :)
Poor : the disk is bad, some prgs have bad sectors so no wonder they don't work, will look at it later.
Brainstorm 3: sids added and commented
In Memoriam : sids added and commented. also changed release date (dec 1989, not 1990)
Meganoter V2.0+:
/MUSICIANS/D/DRAX/Zammis.sid
/MUSICIANS/0-9/20CC/van_Santen_Edwin/Cyberfunk.sid
/MUSICIANS/M/MozIcArt/Tjelta_Geir/Melodious.sid
/MUSICIANS/S/Slaygon/Overture_90.sid
/MUSICIANS/D/DRAX/End.sid
but obviously I won't add these sids in the megatoolz entry. If there's an entry for the single tool, feel free to add the sids to it.
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Enok
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Wow!! Thanks a million - definitely an excellent knowledge of SIDs! :)
As for the Poor demo, I have some of the parts in separate T64 files but I guess it wouldn't help much.
However, I'm not sure if Brainstorm 3's intro would be Zamzara (or I can't find the tune in question in the SID).
Thanks again! |
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Inge
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It IS Zamzara tune #1, but the music in the intro starts about 1:58 into the tune. |
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iAN CooG
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Quote: Wow!! Thanks a million - definitely an excellent knowledge of SIDs! :)
As for the Poor demo, I have some of the parts in separate T64 files but I guess it wouldn't help much.
However, I'm not sure if Brainstorm 3's intro would be Zamzara (or I can't find the tune in question in the SID).
Thanks again!
It's not just knowledge of sid files, it's impossible to know every 36000 sids =)
Just dump the memory, find the music data and search for hexpatterns in hvsc dir.
The missing parts as t64 would be nice to try to rebuild the d64 replacing the broken ones. |
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Zyron
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Uploaded my copy of Poor/Biascrusher which I think is working, no time to check it right now but I believe I've been able to watch all parts even though some might have to be loaded separately due to the lousy linking. |
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iAN CooG
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Quote: Uploaded my copy of Poor/Biascrusher which I think is working, no time to check it right now but I believe I've been able to watch all parts even though some might have to be loaded separately due to the lousy linking.
Great Zyron =) Sids identified and added to the entry.
Part B.* doesn't decrunch if loaded from the previous part because the decruncher expects $2d/$2e set correctly before decrunching, but they're not set after loading.
Patching the file to set them before decrunching is trivial, I can provide a "101%" fixed d64. ;) |
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Enok
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Thanks!! Well, the Poor/Biascrusher question seems to be solved then... :)
- On another note, to me it seems that the Mozicart tune 'Luminous' has two versions. The one used in demos differ from the version currently in HVSC, but only very slightly: listening _by ear_ (on SidAmp), one note in the arpeggio lead is played a bit higher at 0:20. (Don't know if it's really two different versions or a question of player software setting.)
- A bonus question: I've had a melody on mind that I heard on the C64 around 1990 but don't remember whether it was a demo, cracktro or a game. I have tried to recreate it in BuzzTracker (I'm from the PC basically :)) as I'm not familiar with SID trackers (yet?). The arps, bass and percussion were added by me, I only remember the (lead) melody. Can someone help in identifying it?
http://www.mediafire.com/file/4njwti2zmnz/64id2.mp3
Thanks again in advance! |
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j0x
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The last two bars of the theme made me think of Amyloid #1 |
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Enok
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Yes, that's it! Thanks a million - was my favourite tune back then! :) |
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Petey21
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Does anyone know the name of the SID in the part with bouncing raster bars (just after the sampled Ma-Na-Ma-Na Muppet song), and also the next part with the picture of a warrior? Thanks in advance! :)
Alvesta Sirap '88 |
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Inge
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The first one is tune #2 from Noisy Pillars (tune 1). The next is tune #1 from Thunder Force. |
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Petey21
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How about the music in this crack intro?
The Papillons Intro #3 |
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McMeatLoaf
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It's tune #11, "Cachapaya" from We M.U.S.I.C. 3 . |
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Petey21
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Am I the only one using this thread? ;)
Here's another one I'm curious about, what sids would these be?
Utterlyx |
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iAN CooG
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Sids added and credits fixed. |
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Jon
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Chopper Commander +5H
Never heard this one outside of this BBI intro. It's probably a well known tune by a well known musician...? but I am too obtuse to find it on my own.
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SIDWAVE
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This tune is not in HVSC, i did a binary search with no result. |
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iAN CooG
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I can't find it too, added for HVSC#54, all BBI intros uses this but none credits it, and even the player seems some custom code not found anywhere else %)
Edit: found some similar code in
MUSICIANS\M\MC\
Ode_To_Galway.sid
Rockmonitor_5_Intromusic.sid
pattern: 29 FE 99 04 D4 98 AA A5
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MC
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Quote: I can't find it too, added for HVSC#54, all BBI intros uses this but none credits it, and even the player seems some custom code not found anywhere else %)
Edit: found some similar code in
MUSICIANS\M\MC\
Ode_To_Galway.sid
Rockmonitor_5_Intromusic.sid
pattern: 29 FE 99 04 D4 98 AA A5
That would make it a music-assembler thing. Trust me I know. ;) |
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SIDWAVE
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Mc: its amazing you can remember those bytes, but in case you couldnt, it only takes 20 mins to re-format peoples head to remember this old stuff. youd be amazed how fast your memory comes back! |
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wfking
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Does anyone know the name of the SID that is played in the Level99 cracktro of Target Renegade:
Target Renegade
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iAN CooG
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/MUSICIANS/S/Schneider_Markus/Kaos.sid |
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wfking
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Quote: /MUSICIANS/S/Schneider_Markus/Kaos.sid
Wow, very fast reply. Thanks a lot. |
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SIDWAVE
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Quote: Wow, very fast reply. Thanks a lot.
we use black magic to find sids.
we can find anything.
first of all, we have over 5000 tunes in the head.
second, we use black magic.
:d
remembering 5000+ tunes isnt harder than to remember all assembly opcodes. if you see/hear the stuff every day, your brain is used to getting refreshed (like ram in a computer), and at some point, the memories are burned so tight, that you cant forget them anymore. :D |
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Steppe
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Yeah, Ian Coog throws the d64 at his dos script which extracts the prgs, unpacks the files, autorips the sid tunes, takes a usable pattern from the music data and autocompares it on all tunes in HVSC. Or something along these lines. Black magic is so cool! :-) |
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Enok
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This might be slightly offtopic as this tune to ID is from a game... it was a 'Western' style arcade game from the early 1980s. I don't remember the title - only the melody stuck in my head which I tried to recreate in BuzzTracker from memory (it had this syncopated rhythm). MP3 sample >>
http://www.mediafire.com/?xjkxyk3gbbazra1
Any help would be appreciated - thanks! |
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SIDWAVE
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It's /MUSICIANS/D/Daglish_Ben/Mountie_Micks_Death_Ride.sid
and Ben dicked around with another tune and some of the same patterns in /MUSICIANS/D/Daglish_Ben/Olli_and_Lissa.sid tune 12 |
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Enok
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Yes, that's it, thanks a million! The other SID is also great!
Been playing with this game a lot way back then (mostly for the music).... |
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Petey21
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Anyone knows what tunes are being used in this demo? It's yet another of those good old demos with "music by unknown" from back in the days.
Delusion Demo |
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The Syndrom
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don't know about the first 2 parts, but the 3rd is easy:
Secret Land
4th I'v heard before, but can't name it. |
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Mr. SID
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First part is Rocky Star by Future Freak, and part 2 and 4 are by Edwin van Santen, Sandision and Spijkerhoek. |
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iAN CooG
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Quote: Anyone knows what tunes are being used in this demo? It's yet another of those good old demos with "music by unknown" from back in the days.
Delusion Demo
there, sids/credits added. Rocky star is played w/o using the samples even if they're in the binary |
