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2012-11-30 14:37
Flex

Registered: Feb 2002
Posts: 102
More music genre compos??

Highscore Power Ballad music compo turned out to be a success and activated the music-scene a lot! This compo which was born thanks to oneliners obviously needs a sequel.. Or does it?

What do you people think? Was this just an idea that carried for this one time or should there be more of this kind?

If there's going to be another one, what theme would activate people the most? I want your ideas.

Here's mine:

The theme should be wide enough so that there won't be 30 "poker faces" etc.. :) How about James Bond theme? Everyone knows that typical Bond-type of music and chord progressions that make it typical but still there are 23(?) great, different Bond tunes out there.. In other words, no covers. Totally new tunes in a James Bond spirit.
50 years of Bond so far and this idea would even end up with a contribution-disk (music selector) for the sake of it.

Now it's your turn.. Whenever there are some great ideas, then let's pick up one, even vote for the theme or so..

Now let's talk...
2012-11-30 15:34
CreaMD

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 3035
I'm all for. I only have problem with the actual sticking to the rules. If there is a "power ballad" written in the name of the compo, one would expect power ballad and not more or less generic music in the compo. Sometimes I thought.. wow, nice tune, would be great to have such thing in c64.sk sid compo.. but why is it here. Anyway, if you set theme, and not genre, then it will work much better. With genre, it's a bit tricky. Some musicians just ignore it, it seems ;-))
2012-11-30 15:56
Flex

Registered: Feb 2002
Posts: 102
Yea, CreaMD you're right there. Myself, I'm kinda more after themes than genres too.. That way your hands aren't tied in any way.
2012-11-30 18:46
Kristian

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 126
Personally I'm a bit into genrecompos. Makes it a bit more challenging. I'd like to see a cover/remix-compo were the goal was to cover an old SID or perhaps a real song. Maybe you could choose from three given tunes or something like that.
2012-11-30 19:29
Hein

Registered: Apr 2004
Posts: 933
Genre/Theme, both are quite stretchable. But personally I'd learn more from genre, especially a genre that I don't know anything about.

Alas, if you have the time, it seems you can just start a compo of your liking here, and the usual suspects will participate. :)
2012-11-30 19:42
Frantic

Registered: Mar 2003
Posts: 1627
I'd opt for genres. Fixing the genre is more like a restriction, which forces you to be creative within a certain frame and helps you get on with your composing business right away -- which is fun. Having a theme is more like you can do it in a zillion of ways, and I have a feeling that I would find that less inspiring.
2012-11-30 19:56
Dane
Account closed

Registered: May 2002
Posts: 421
I'm a sucker for online music compos, just because they give all participants such a better audience than the usual crowd at demoparties. Don't get me wrong, I really like parties - and it's a killer experience to have your stuff played at max volume - but music compos at parties are traditionally more about torture and less about discovering great tunes. Sitting at home and devoting time to sifting through all entries..yup, that's the way I like it.

So I'll try to find time to contribute in the future if there are some more. Personally I don't mind if it's theme- or genre-based. It might be tedious to listen through 30 variations of 'reggae' but then again, like Frantic says, if you go for the theme 'space' you'll get entries that will have fuck all to do with the theme.

But then again, at the end of the day I'm mostly interested in a good listening experience and new music to inspire me. So anything goes. :)
2012-12-01 04:09
Stainless Steel

Registered: Mar 2003
Posts: 966
Online compos are nice, but i'm way to undisciplined to
compose anything specific like a theme or a certain genre on purpose.
2012-12-01 09:33
goto80

Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 138
It's a great idea! Whether it's genre or theme is just semantics, right? James Bond themes could be seen as a genre, for example. Anyway, some suggestions:

Blues
Samba
Bossanova
Ambient
Death Metal
2012-12-01 11:38
Mixer

Registered: Apr 2008
Posts: 422
Arranging to a style is fun.

I'm on for a Bond theme challenge. Epicness, suspense, strong melody(yes to Golden Eye, no to that Madonna crap), big or intimate with 3 sid voices only.

Afterall, Bond title sequences have been an inspiration to many demos over the years.
2012-12-01 16:33
CreaMD

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 3035
Goto80, power-metal also suits commodore ;-)
2012-12-01 20:05
Stainless Steel

Registered: Mar 2003
Posts: 966
Quoting Mixer
no to that Madonna crap
Uh oh dont let Dane hear that.
On the other hand, i think he's gotten past his madonna phase :-D
2012-12-01 22:30
Dane
Account closed

Registered: May 2002
Posts: 421
I agree that Goldeneye is one of the very best Bond themes and that Die another Day wasn't good at all as a Bond theme. It was more a case of Madonna adding some (great) strings to a finished song, using it as a vehicle to promote her album while ticking the box of I-did-a-Bond-theme.

Shirley Bassey defined the Bond theme music in my opinion. It should always have a female vocalist with a rich, haunted voice. So they really nailed it with picking Adele this time, the only problem was that her song didn't have a chorus strong enough.

In the future I see Lana Del Rey doing a Bond theme.
2012-12-02 01:21
NecroPolo

Registered: Jun 2009
Posts: 231
Since 2010, we've been cooking something for the (hopefully near, let's say Q2-Q3 2013) future that is very closely related here. It covers thematic / criterium based competition, it just still needs a lot of background work/planning.

BTW congrats for all the high score ballad competitors and organisers. I could not participate due to heavy everyday duties (let alone finding a couple of silent hours to give tunes the attention that they deserve) but I had an eye on the event that gives me high hopes about the future of SIDs and C64 music compos. Kudos!
2012-12-07 22:29
Didi

Registered: Nov 2011
Posts: 479
How about crack intro music compo:
- max. playtime 1:00 min, then repeat or fade.
- max. size: $1000-$2000
- single speed only
- no SID model preference (should sound good on all SID models)
2012-12-08 01:15
redcrab

Registered: Aug 2011
Posts: 33
A theme I'd like to see is a 2-CHANNEL COMPO, aiming at ingame scores! In most games at least one channel is left out for sound effects, but still rocks. R-type is the example that comes to my mind first. Guess you've got hundreds of good examples (and that might be an interesting thread, but still another story)

This theme is interesting because:

- It's a very clear rule
- The composers that already master this technique (in favor for reverb, dual voice leads etc) will gain more fame for it
- It will inspire those of us fiddeling with gamedevs! And the tunes might come in handy for compos like the RGCD one. I believe good ingame music is kind of sought after, but I may be wrong.
- 3 channels is WAY to unrestricted for any hardcore musician :P

(a 1-channel compo is a bit like overdoing it ..or isn't it?)

Opinions?
2012-12-08 06:27
Yogibear

Registered: Aug 2003
Posts: 208
I guess no one likes a 2 or 3SID compo?! :P
Roland Hermans could easily code a player for that in asm for use in VICE.
He might want to share that too!
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