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2006-01-17 10:40
Oswald

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 5094
We want to see alll user comments

Yesterday we had a chat about this on irc, and it looks like all ppl dislike the fact that only 1 comment is displayed on first load, as most of use wants to check all comments most of the time. How about changing it ?


ps. this will probably decrease load on csdb aswell, as most of the release pages are often transfered twice due to the current behaviour.
2006-01-17 11:09
Shokray
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Registered: Dec 2002
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Nice idea! however, first they have to fix the speed problems, this place is 'sometimes' way to slow. ;/
2006-01-17 12:42
WVL

Registered: Mar 2002
Posts: 902
since i was the one who started this on irc, i agree! :)

now i always have to access a single release twice, or sometimes even 4 times before i can read all the comments.. waste of load on csdb..

make perff can make an estimation?

-> how many times a page is accessed now without comments
-> how many times a page is accessed now with comments

and compare the load if all pages are only accessed with all comments?

I think load on csdb will decrease.
2006-01-17 12:53
Krill

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 2979
What oswald, shokray and wvl said.
2006-01-17 13:15
Deev

Registered: Feb 2002
Posts: 206
What Krill said :)
2006-01-17 13:16
Zyron

Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 2381
What Oswald, Shokray, WVL & Krill said.
2006-01-17 13:16
Perff
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Posts: 1679
A quick'n'dirty count says that for every 5 times an entry is viewed, it is viewed with comments one time. So basically it says that 4 out of 5 is ok with it the way it is today.
Anyway. When you say comments, do you, in the case of releases, mean ALL comments (reviews, hidden parts, trivia, etc) or just the regular comments (reviews)?
2006-01-17 13:27
Oswald

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 5094
perff, little correction

3 out for 5 is for a view without comments

2 out of 5 is for: 1 to get to the page, and 1 to get to the comment

and to the question, I think everyone will agree that only the comments are enough.
2006-01-17 13:37
Perff
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Posts: 1679
Hmm.. Perhaps my math-skills is a bit rusty, but here is how I calculated it:
the log-files reported 5 times as many loads without comments as with.
So 4 times someone loads the page without comments, and is done with that. The 5th time, the user reloads the page WITH comments. That gives 4 out of 5 in my book?
(Perhaps my text above could be interpreted in a different way...)

Anyway. if you REALLY want it, I guess I could put it in as default &show=comments
2006-01-17 13:52
WVL

Registered: Mar 2002
Posts: 902
Quote: Hmm.. Perhaps my math-skills is a bit rusty, but here is how I calculated it:
the log-files reported 5 times as many loads without comments as with.
So 4 times someone loads the page without comments, and is done with that. The 5th time, the user reloads the page WITH comments. That gives 4 out of 5 in my book?
(Perhaps my text above could be interpreted in a different way...)

Anyway. if you REALLY want it, I guess I could put it in as default &show=comments


so for each total 6 views, there's 5 without comments and 1 with.
now, if all pages would show comments directly, this would change to total 5 views with comments.

in other words : it costs 4 views with comments and saves 5 views without comments.

-> load on csdb will decrease if a page WITH comments does not take more than 5/4 the resources as a page without comments.

anyway, i think if it is user selectable, it would decrease load always.. (i always read all the comments f.e.!)
2006-01-17 14:28
Oswald

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 5094
I bet we really want it.

I vote for it.

what does the rest of u tink ?
2006-01-17 14:38
cba

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 935
Quote: I bet we really want it.

I vote for it.

what does the rest of u tink ?


I want it too!

I think all of us want it

:)

Niels
2006-01-17 14:57
Scout

Registered: Dec 2002
Posts: 1570
Quote:
(i always read all the comments f.e.!)


Me too.
I find it a bit 'annoying' to do an extra action to see 'em all.

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2006-01-17 15:00
Zyron

Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 2381
I agree with the above.
2006-01-17 15:14
Perff
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Posts: 1679
Would you please just SHUT UP and leave me alone!!??!??

;-P

Enjoy the comments on FIRST LOAD from now on. :)
2006-01-17 15:15
TDJ

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1879
Quote: I agree with the above.

I agree with the one below.
2006-01-17 15:16
Scout

Registered: Dec 2002
Posts: 1570
TDJ is an idiot!

;P
2006-01-17 15:51
TDJ

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1879
Quote: TDJ is an idiot!

;P


I agree.
2006-01-17 15:59
Zyron

Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 2381
Totally.
2006-01-17 16:13
Tch
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Registered: Sep 2004
Posts: 512
Thanx Perff! 8D
2006-01-17 17:26
Steppe

Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 1510
I second the posts above! :-)

Oh, you already implemented it, great! ;-)
2006-01-18 01:08
Krill

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 2979
Also, i never got why summaries and user comments are separate things. In fact, i'm always confused what to write where.
2006-01-18 07:32
j0x

Registered: Mar 2004
Posts: 215
Quote: Also, i never got why summaries and user comments are separate things. In fact, i'm always confused what to write where.

I'd split it up like so:

Summary: "What is it?" (more or less objective facts)

User comment: "What do you think about it?"


Oh, and a belated "me, too" from me, too!
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