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Mace
Registered: May 2002
Posts: 1799 |
credits: Sampling > Digitizing
May I suggest that the credits list is changed?
Instead of 'sampling' it should contain 'digitizing', because than you can use it for both sound and video/pictures.
Useful for Star Trek Generations. |
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Scout
Registered: Dec 2002
Posts: 1570 |
I completely disagree with this.
Sampling != Digitizing
Besides that, sampling is a term used in music and digitizing is not. |
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11384 |
i have added "new (!) credit type: scanning" to the todo list. |
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assiduous
Account closed
Registered: Jun 2007
Posts: 343 |
"translation" credit type pls.
oh and tags ofcourse while you`re at it;) |
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11384 |
translation is on the list already :) |
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Oswald
Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 5094 |
and also a credit for "idea for new credit" plz! ;)
edit: ahyeah tags too :) |
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A3
Registered: Dec 2005
Posts: 362 |
How about sample as release typ aswell. there are a few of those :) |
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Oswald
Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 5094 |
tags could pickup demos that have samples nicely ;) |
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Mace
Registered: May 2002
Posts: 1799 |
Quoting ScoutI completely disagree with this.
Sampling != Digitizing I do not agree that sampling is not the same as digitizing.
Why else are we calling those sampled sounds 'digis' then?
Digitizing is the process of converting whatever (analogue) signal/information into something digital.
And to continue this issue:
Scanning is a FORM of digitizing, but is not the process used to make still images of moving video (like the afore-mentioned Star Trek demo).
- Scanning is the process of digitizing a still image
- Capturing is the process of digitizing moving video (let's throw DV on that same pile for now)
- Sampling is the process of digitizing audio
My aim was to find a universal credit for the entire process of converting audio, video and images into something for C64, hence 'digitizing'.
If you like, keep graphics and audio separated by having 'sampling' in de credit list. But we also need something for the graphics!
Quoting ViolatorHow about sample as release typ aswell. Why not change 'music' into 'sound/music'? |
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Scout
Registered: Dec 2002
Posts: 1570 |
Quote:My aim was to find a universal credit for the entire process of converting audio, video and images into something for C64, hence 'digitizing'.
And you failed big time.
What amazes/annoys me is that you of all people (with a musical background) should have known better regarding the sampling vs digitizing issue.
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Mace
Registered: May 2002
Posts: 1799 |
Quoting ScoutWhat amazes/annoys me is that you of all people (with a musical background) should have known better regarding the sampling vs digitizing issue.
I am not at all aware of an 'issue' concerning sampling vs digitizing, if there is any.
It's the same, as I explained quite clearly.
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Hate Bush
Registered: Jul 2002
Posts: 464 |
you can sample without digitizing. think about it :) |
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Mace
Registered: May 2002
Posts: 1799 |
Quoting Randallyou can sample without digitizing. think about it No, I won't think about it, this is not some quiz.
I'll just use 'graphics' as credits, untill those who know better come up with a solution. |
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Devia
Registered: Oct 2004
Posts: 401 |
If "sampling" == "digitizing" most guys who sample these days, wouldn't be sampling, but doing something undefined or only definable by its actual contents.
"Sampling", in the context of this thread, is the process of selecting, processing and converting audio samples. By that definition, digitizing may be a part of either the processing or convertion state. If your audio sample is already digital, why "digitize" it?
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Oswald
Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 5094 |
sampling was an unknown term well into the mid 90s to me. the c64 scene used the term digitizing afaik. if it were otherwise those "digi" demos would have been called sample demos. pictures were also "digitized" and not scanned afaik. |
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Mace
Registered: May 2002
Posts: 1799 |
Oswald, you're my friend ;-)
(did I just put that in writing??!!11!one) |
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11384 |
Quote: sampling was an unknown term well into the mid 90s to me. the c64 scene used the term digitizing afaik. if it were otherwise those "digi" demos would have been called sample demos. pictures were also "digitized" and not scanned afaik.
digital sound clips were called "digis", yes. however the act of creating them from an analog source was almost always called "sampling". for a start, look at the hardware that was commonly used, eg the amiga sound sampler :) "digitizing" i only remember from the infamous "video digitizer". |
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Oswald
Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 5094 |
I had a c64 digi cart which was called smth like sound digitizer. and I guess we're talking here in the context of the c64 scene not the amiga.
quick csdb search:
114 matches for sample
337 for digi
edit: see I have called it _digi_ cart instinctively and not sample cart. |
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Mace
Registered: May 2002
Posts: 1799 |
These 'sample' released often refer to sound samples as demonstrations of SID music (check Hubbard, for example).
However, I have to admit that my digitizing tool was called "Sampler 64" :D |
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Frantic
Registered: Mar 2003
Posts: 1648 |
To set things straight:
digitized/sampled sound is really called "sound dump". Yes, really called so. |
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Mace
Registered: May 2002
Posts: 1799 |
Hehehe :-) |
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11384 |
Quote:I had a c64 digi cart which was called smth like sound digitizer. and I guess we're talking here in the context of the c64 scene not the amiga.
everyone who got slightly famous with their digi stuff (censor, weird science etc) used amigas for sampling :) |
