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Fierman
Registered: Feb 2002
Posts: 85 |
plus4/c16/vic20
Suggested before as I understood, but would make sense to add these as categories in CSDB.
Pretty please :) |
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Krill
Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 2979 |
+1 |
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A3
Registered: Dec 2005
Posts: 362 |
-1 |
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iAN CooG
Registered: May 2002
Posts: 3193 |
-1 |
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Fierman
Registered: Feb 2002
Posts: 85 |
+1 |
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Total Chaos
Registered: Mar 2006
Posts: 74 |
-1 for having it here...
+1 for having something like CSDB for them... |
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11384 |
i'll add the category myself .... as soon as all c64 releases are added and the entries are complete and correct =P |
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Fierman
Registered: Feb 2002
Posts: 85 |
Quote: i'll add the category myself .... as soon as all c64 releases are added and the entries are complete and correct =P
That's Groepaz speak for "over my dead body" ? :) |
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11384 |
i just dont think that even more stuff like that should be added as long as the TODO list contains enough to keep perff busy until 2035.
what about starting something from scratch instead, preferably avoiding all the now known problems/flaws of csdb? sounds like a great opportunity for some people who know how to do it to me =P |
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Cresh
Registered: Jan 2004
Posts: 354 |
No, thanks.
http://plus4world.powweb.com/home |
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hedning
Registered: Mar 2009
Posts: 4731 |
What cresh said. |
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null
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Registered: Jun 2006
Posts: 645 |
As nice as it'd be, I just don't see it happening.
I'm pretty sure this discussion has come by at least once before.
Besides, there's always Pouet and http://demozoo.org/]Demozoo[/url] (which is still in closed-ish testing, but from what I've seen very promising).
On the other hand, we do also have c128 and DTV releases here, so... yeah. explain *that* shit. |
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11384 |
these can both run C64 software and thus are somehow related. thats how far we stretch it :) |
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Radiant
Registered: Sep 2004
Posts: 639 |
Also C128 and DTV have never had their own scenes separate from the C64 scene. |
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FATFrost
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Registered: Sep 2003
Posts: 211 |
Well, does CSDb stand for Commodore Scene Database or commodore 64 scene database?!? |
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11384 |
look here :=) |
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Fierman
Registered: Feb 2002
Posts: 85 |
Well, the main reason why I thought vic/c16/+4 entries could be in csdb is that I thought there was a bit of overlap between the 'scenes'. People who do stuff for those machines also do stuff for c64 under the same handles and vice versa etc. (Soci for instance!)
So apparently there is a sort of consensus on this matter, just not one that agrees with me :) That's fine I guess. Good to see some discussion about it anyway.
The only opinion I really do not agree on is that the existing sites do the job better than CSDB. The concept of an open collaborative database which csdb is _does_ work, without too much drama and trolling. Over 110K entries prove it. That is something the c64 'scene' can be proud of. |
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algorithm
Registered: May 2002
Posts: 705 |
I guess with demo entries getting lesser and lesser each year, would be an idea to emalgamate other 8 bit commodore entries. |
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Oswald
Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 5094 |
Quote: i just dont think that even more stuff like that should be added as long as the TODO list contains enough to keep perff busy until 2035.
what about starting something from scratch instead, preferably avoiding all the now known problems/flaws of csdb? sounds like a great opportunity for some people who know how to do it to me =P
tags could solve this one too as a breeze. |
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Luca
Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 178 |
Really? This topic again?
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Mr.Ammo
Account closed
Registered: Oct 2002
Posts: 228 |
-1 |
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11384 |
Quote:tags could solve this one too as a breeze.
so get coding already! a whole website full of tags, doesnt need anything but that apparently =) |
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Skate
Registered: Jul 2003
Posts: 494 |
+1
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RaMoS
Account closed
Registered: Aug 2003
Posts: 37 |
+1 |
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jailbird
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1578 |
Ah, here goes the usual...
Oswald: we need <insert here something relatively reasonable>
Groepaz: no
Oswald: why?
Groepaz: because fuck you, that's why
Oswald:
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enthusi
Registered: May 2004
Posts: 677 |
I'm against new plattforms here as well (if anyone cares).
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Mr. SID
Registered: Jan 2003
Posts: 424 |
-1
What about Amiga? |
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MagerValp
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1078 |
http://plus4world.powweb.com/ indeed covers +4/C16 well, but is there's a decent place to follow the VIC-20? |
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null
Account closed
Registered: Jun 2006
Posts: 645 |
Pouet.net maybe?
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http://zowb.net[/url] |
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jailbird
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1578 |
The last time we discussed this (five years ago), there was a quite hostile "welcome" from the Plus/4 scene, especially from that very kind dude named Csabo who's administering the plus4world site. He's even worse than Groepaz, and that says a lot :)
So all I have to say is: fuck'em.
Edit: @Knoeki, fix the goddamn link in your signature |
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MagerValp
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1078 |
Quote: Pouet.net maybe?
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http://zowb.net[/url]
I can't find an RSS feed for VIC-20 releases there, and drinking from the whole pouet.net hose is out of the question. |
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11384 |
isnt all the vic-20 stuff worth mentioning here ? =) |
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hollowman
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 474 |
Quote: I can't find an RSS feed for VIC-20 releases there, and drinking from the whole pouet.net hose is out of the question.
http://www.pouet.net/export/lastprodsreleased.rss.php?platform=VIC%2020&howmany=15 |
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Six
Registered: Apr 2002
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+1, as IMHO there's a lot of crossover in substance. (SID tunes done for sidcard-using +4 demos, for instance)
We have VIC-20 and DTV/2/3 stuff here, so why not +4?
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iAN CooG
Registered: May 2002
Posts: 3193 |
Quote: +1, as IMHO there's a lot of crossover in substance. (SID tunes done for sidcard-using +4 demos, for instance)
We have VIC-20 and DTV/2/3 stuff here, so why not +4?
apart those made by Luca/FIRE, there are a whole TWO other sid tunes made by plussy sceners, rest is always reused & converted from c64 sids. |
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null
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Registered: Jun 2006
Posts: 645 |
Quoting JailbirdEdit: @Knoeki, fix the goddamn link in your signature
I can't fix it if the BBCode interpreter on CSDb is broken. |
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11384 |
simply DONT use the url tag when the url starts with http:// =) |
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Luca
Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 178 |
Quote: The last time we discussed this (five years ago), there was a quite hostile "welcome" from the Plus/4 scene, especially from that very kind dude named Csabo who's administering the plus4world site. He's even worse than Groepaz, and that says a lot :)
So all I have to say is: fuck'em.
Edit: @Knoeki, fix the goddamn link in your signature
Jailbird now you must wash out the sin of your mean words with a Plus/4 release :) |
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MagerValp
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1078 |
Quote: http://www.pouet.net/export/lastprodsreleased.rss.php?platform=VIC%2020&howmany=15
Much appreciated, I tried something similar and only got a bunch of PHP errors...
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Scout
Registered: Dec 2002
Posts: 1570 |
And here is something I started a few years ago but stopped maintaining.
I had some sort of csdb for VIC20 in mind.
Anyway, the files are still there.
ftp://ftp.untergrund.net/users/vic20scene |
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Carrion
Registered: Feb 2009
Posts: 317 |
@JB: I have to say f word (fuck you) to you too.
Plus4world.com is doing great and there's no need to create c+4 dept here. They have games, covers (do you have that? it's like csdb+lemon64 combined),demos (and me) these times so again fuck you nvidia... i mean JBird.
and leave Plus/4 in it's right part of the web as they (we) are doing great.
and get off of Oswald. Because as they (us) say "Lengyel, Magyar két jó barát, együtt harcol, s issza borát". So again fuck you JB and
hope to see you both (Oswald, and JB) at X'12.
<obvious troll>
ps. Oh and I bet Jailbird can't pixel on Plus/4. Cant he?
</obvious troll>
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Queen bittin
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Registered: Jun 2011
Posts: 119 |
Quote: isnt all the vic-20 stuff worth mentioning here ? =)
http://sleepingelephant.com/ipw-web/bulletin/bb/viewtopic.php?t.. |
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Graham
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Registered: Dec 2002
Posts: 990 |
Quoting FiermanWell, the main reason why I thought vic/c16/+4 entries could be in csdb is that I thought there was a bit of overlap between the 'scenes'. People who do stuff for those machines also do stuff for c64 under the same handles and vice versa etc. (Soci for instance!)
Not only overlap in the scenes, but also overlap in graphics, music, code :)
A lot of older +4 Megademos simply ripped code, graphics, SID tunes from C64, so you could say many of them are "C64 demos" :D |
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jailbird
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1578 |
Oh shut up, Carrot Top... I mean, Carrion :D |
