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enthusi
Registered: May 2004
Posts: 675 |
"ignore" certain groups?
Is it possible to not only chose to display "demos only" but also introduce some selection of groups to be ignored?
I feel a general tendency to do so among several sceners.
However discussable this point of view is, it would for the moment maybe help to avoid some bashing and CSDb users could "generate" an exclusive understanding of "their" scene.
I think some ignore-groups-list would suffice - however I assume this is way more complex on the server-side than ignore single user-posts?
Maybe people have an opinion on this feature?
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Trazan
Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 620 |
Or better yet, add a Retarded section and place all crap from Crypt, Secretman and the other likewise persons who dont nor did belong to the scene. And make it happen ASAP! |
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Mace
Registered: May 2002
Posts: 1799 |
Trazan, perhaps that's what Enthusi meant but in a less trolling and provocative way ;) |
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Scout
Registered: Dec 2002
Posts: 1568 |
Déjà vu... Making the custom view mode even more custom |
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Richard
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 619 |
Please can you explain what a retarded release is? Is it a release that targets another person or a flood load of bad quality releases? |
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Linus
Registered: Jun 2004
Posts: 638 |
Read the post by Trazan again. |
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Richard
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 619 |
Ok, I see what you are talking about :)
If this is really bothering the people on CSDB, why not add some more rules about that kind of behaviour or put a block on the upload release option for the people responsible abusing the CSDB with what you call retarded crap?
Perhaps yellow card systems should be introduced, where 2 yellow cards = a red card and those who get a red card gets kicked off CSDB for a month or so, and 3 red cards = a permanent ban.
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cadaver
Registered: Feb 2002
Posts: 1153 |
You cannot really block "unwanted" releases without being quite offensive and/or discriminating. Rules would need rational reasons which are not so easy to come by without becoming ridiculously complicated (if it's possible at all). That's why it's better to leave up to each individual to filter. And btw. IMO we've had enough rule-bashing by now (remember Baracuda) |
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Richard
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 619 |
Quote: You cannot really block "unwanted" releases without being quite offensive and/or discriminating. Rules would need rational reasons which are not so easy to come by without becoming ridiculously complicated (if it's possible at all). That's why it's better to leave up to each individual to filter. And btw. IMO we've had enough rule-bashing by now (remember Baracuda)
Okay. I'll stop my questions and suggestions about this topic right here and I'll leave this topic to the rest of the people :) |
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The Shadow
Registered: Oct 2007
Posts: 304 |
The definition of retarded release is a matter of personal opinion. There have been plenty of releases from lamer label groups such as Bad Taste and Looney Tunes Importers. Such releases were done alot in the 90s when one group wanted to rag on another group through their lame label. Nowadays there is no purpose for lamer groups since there no longer are group wars. Some people like to play games that others would consider lame. A yellow and red card system would add too much burden to the maintainers of the CSDb. |
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Scout
Registered: Dec 2002
Posts: 1568 |
Quote: The definition of retarded release is a matter of personal opinion. There have been plenty of releases from lamer label groups such as Bad Taste and Looney Tunes Importers. Such releases were done alot in the 90s when one group wanted to rag on another group through their lame label. Nowadays there is no purpose for lamer groups since there no longer are group wars. Some people like to play games that others would consider lame. A yellow and red card system would add too much burden to the maintainers of the CSDb.
Retarded group != Lamer group/label.
Agreed? Agreed. |
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11114 |
Quote:
there is no purpose for lamer groups
i think thats precisely what trazan wanted to say =P |
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Jazzcat
Registered: Feb 2002
Posts: 1044 |
Quote: Or better yet, add a Retarded section and place all crap from Crypt, Secretman and the other likewise persons who dont nor did belong to the scene. And make it happen ASAP!
agreed!! |
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Kater
Account closed
Registered: Oct 2007
Posts: 20 |
Quote: The definition of retarded release is a matter of personal opinion. There have been plenty of releases from lamer label groups such as Bad Taste and Looney Tunes Importers. Such releases were done alot in the 90s when one group wanted to rag on another group through their lame label. Nowadays there is no purpose for lamer groups since there no longer are group wars. Some people like to play games that others would consider lame. A yellow and red card system would add too much burden to the maintainers of the CSDb.
agreed! |
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TWR
Account closed
Registered: Jan 2004
Posts: 187 |
Quote: Please can you explain what a retarded release is? Is it a release that targets another person or a flood load of bad quality releases?
It's pretty easy to sort out what's retarded and what is not.
Releases from onslaught,hokuto force,nostalgia,remember,the remembers,trazan,scout,groepaz,twoflower,taper,hitmen is TEH shit.
These guys were around back in the early days of the scene and should be the ones who makes the rules.
Everyone else = RETARDED and should be banned.
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TDJ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1879 |
Quote: It's pretty easy to sort out what's retarded and what is not.
Releases from onslaught,hokuto force,nostalgia,remember,the remembers,trazan,scout,groepaz,twoflower,taper,hitmen is TEH shit.
These guys were around back in the early days of the scene and should be the ones who makes the rules.
Everyone else = RETARDED and should be banned.
agreed! |
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Trazan
Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 620 |
Agreed. Basics of the scene! |
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cba
Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 932 |
Quote: It's pretty easy to sort out what's retarded and what is not.
Releases from onslaught,hokuto force,nostalgia,remember,the remembers,trazan,scout,groepaz,twoflower,taper,hitmen is TEH shit.
These guys were around back in the early days of the scene and should be the ones who makes the rules.
Everyone else = RETARDED and should be banned.
I say YEAH !, all others should go to csdb-retards.com
:)
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Danzig
Registered: Jun 2002
Posts: 429 |
you want beer but there is none... so you buy the more expensive stuff, like a bottle of fine scotch...
do the same here!
you want to ignore groups but that is no option... so you take the other one: ignore urls :D
just stay away...
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Kater
Account closed
Registered: Oct 2007
Posts: 20 |
I have heard that are some members of Crypt are banned from here newly. Is this the true? And if yes, what´s the reason for it? |
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11114 |
ask them? (i give you a hint: it started four years ago, and it didnt stop: http://noname.c64.org/csdb/forums/?roomid=8&topicid=8627&showal..) |
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Kater
Account closed
Registered: Oct 2007
Posts: 20 |
Well, okay i´ll read it through the night or / and tomorrow, coz now i´m to drunken for it... ;-) better stop writing now, or you will also bann me.. *gg* but just one question: why are habakuk and troublemaker are banned? |
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11114 |
pardon, secret man pointed out (in his usual kind way) that his deleting and threat to delete more wasn't the only silly thing that was needed to get banned. sorry for giving that impression. |
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The Phantom
Registered: Jan 2004
Posts: 360 |
I think the idea of banning people because of what they release is pretty lame. Sure there are MANY recently trained games that should have stayed where they were found, but obviously, someone felt they should be released, yet again.
It does sicken me to see these lame releases, but again, at least someone's trying to keep it going, regardless of the low quality crap that I've been seeing here lately.
The answer is simple really. Don't look at it :)
I do, however, like the idea of being able to look at a specific genre, like DEMOS, instead of everything that particular group may have done.
To implement something such as Enthusi suggested, each user would require a "file" that would depict what they want to see. At the end of each and every group in CSDb's database, a check box saying "Ignore this group" would be checked by the user. I see it in my mind, but to put it in code is blocked by major amounts of vodka & Khaos :) |
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11114 |
*anyone* who was ever banned on csdb (which are only like 10 people, a LOT less than you'd expect on a forum with this many users) was banned because of silly behaviour, not listening to the mods, getting warned, more silly behaviour, threatening moderators, etc. (repeat)
noone will get banned because of lame releases ever (if anything, the releases might get deleted)
and yeah, maybe one of the mentioned persons got banned in the heat that another of the mentioned persons caused (who deserved the ban no doubt, and who has no chance to come back ever because of his threats). those persons may thank their "kind" group mate for getting sucked into it, and might come back some time in the future.
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The Phantom
Registered: Jan 2004
Posts: 360 |
That's pretty amazing to read.. It takes a lot to get banned on this site.
No worries with me though.. My warring days are long gone, although, I've been yearning to start something with a particular group that can't be mentioned. If I did, i might could be banned, and that would never do. CSDb is one of my favorite places to visit, upload, check out new stuff (regardless how old it is) and see what the scene is up to. hell, i can even help somebody out if I knew WTF they were talking about, hehe.
I do, however, think we've went off topic though. |
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Axis
Account closed
Registered: Aug 2006
Posts: 43 |
troublemaker and habakuk are banned , too..
why??? |
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Danzig
Registered: Jun 2002
Posts: 429 |
prevention, axis, prevention... groepaz mentioned before so "rtfm" ;) ... |
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Jazzcat
Registered: Feb 2002
Posts: 1044 |
Good work.
If people just acted accordingly then none of this has to happen. Hopefully they learn their lesson and start to respect the rules a bit. |
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assiduous
Account closed
Registered: Jun 2007
Posts: 343 |
Quote:That's pretty amazing to read.. It takes a lot to get banned on this site.
[trivia]not really- you can also get banned for something you werent contacted about and 2 months after that had happened. my account was closed for christmas and when i asked for a reason i was referred to my contributions from october LOL. but that was a while ago,i trust the moderators have worked up their reaction time a little.[/trivia] |
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11114 |
assiduous: yeah well. moderators aren't perfect, etc :) the big difference between you and some other guys that were banned is that you are actually able to deal with a conversation beyond "OMG UNBAN ME OR I DELETE CSDB" or "MEEEH UNBAN ME OR I WILL KILL YOU!!!!!!" :) |
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Axis
Account closed
Registered: Aug 2006
Posts: 43 |
Quote: Good work.
If people just acted accordingly then none of this has to happen. Hopefully they learn their lesson and start to respect the rules a bit.
hahaha habakuk don't respect the rules? good joke!
the self-appointed gods of this community won .
it's a disgrace for the scene and this site ....
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11114 |
Quote:
it's a disgrace for the scene and this site ....
now you are talking about "releases" which are nothing more than action-replay freezed bullshit, right?
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Kater
Account closed
Registered: Oct 2007
Posts: 20 |
It was his first release if i remeber right. And whats false on it to join then a group to learn to make it better? Are you all here born with all infos about cracking, coding etc? I dont think so... Everybody (!) has to learn about it. And to bann a beginner... Thats not a good way i think... |
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11114 |
everybody has to learn, yes. and we all started as lamers. and most importantly: we all had to improve our skills to get anywhere. and scene sites/boards/forums/whateveryoucallit not accepting all and every bullshit has always been an important factor to establish a certain level of quality in the scene.
however in this case, what danzig said. if you happen to pop up and release something totally crap and then join a group which is right in the middle of some controversial "fight" and then get banned - for whatever reason - oh well. bad luck. he'll survive it. it's not like anyone would be stopping him from doing stuff, and eventually do something decent next time. |
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CreaMD
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 3034 |
Quote: hahaha habakuk don't respect the rules? good joke!
the self-appointed gods of this community won .
it's a disgrace for the scene and this site ....
I've been disgracing internet C64 community for 8 years.. thas a bit too long for being still considered self-appointed.
And as far as the current situation is concerned, there are some "manifestations" happening "behind the scenes" that never get into public that are justifying our decisions. |
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Danzig
Registered: Jun 2002
Posts: 429 |
Quote:however in this case, what danzig said.
groep, to "say" this must have been hard for ya, wasn't it? *G* |
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11114 |
not really :) speaking up for NOT banning arbitrary groups/people/releases and installing rules that apply to everyone was a lot harder in the past. oh well *sigh* |
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TWR
Account closed
Registered: Jan 2004
Posts: 187 |
I'll keep playin' my tune - and the rats will follow. :-D |
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The Phantom
Registered: Jan 2004
Posts: 360 |
Can you believe this? I'm getting slack from the Grand Kook Fart Himself, claiming I mentioned CRYPT. My posting should be listed above.
I'd like to apologize in advance for what's about to happen if this jackass doesn't back off.
Hear that Mike-o? LET IT GO..
The last thing you need is a Bi-Polar coder on you.
Simply Incredible this character is. Paranoid without a doubt.
From the what, 2 or 3 postings I posted, He claims CRYPT is the group I'm talking about. I have nothing against Crypt, well, not true. The reason I quit the group was because I didn't want to be part of a cracking group, I joined as an artist and somehow got listed as a coder, then pummeled with coding questions by all the members and I quit, period. No hate towards anyone or anything they do.
I wonder what my 100th post here will be.. Something silly, I'm sure. |
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TWR
Account closed
Registered: Jan 2004
Posts: 187 |
No, nothing silly I'm sure.
This is serious business. |
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11114 |
Phantom: now you might be able to imagine what happens "behind the scenes" that manifests their case =P |
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The Phantom
Registered: Jan 2004
Posts: 360 |
Groepaz: I didn't think something like this would happen, not at all. All over a silly viewpoint. I guess jealousy does that (hahaha). I know one thing for sure, King Kook Fart probably won't let it go, so I'm already starting on some code.
And to think, I suggested I wanted to war with someone, but wasn't really serious about it. This could be major fun, well, at least for me :D
I must admit, if this is what you moderators go through on a daily basis, you know, dealing with idiocy & stupidity, you guys have a lot more tolerance than i do.
Sadly enough, Wanderer used to be someone I looked up to, and even started talking to him. Now I think he's nothing but a loser trying to reclaim a fame he really never had. If he thought Stormbringer was a pain in his butt....
I'll try not to bring any of it here though, as I have respect for everyone here.
(hopefully, it's not a bad 100th posting) |
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TWR
Account closed
Registered: Jan 2004
Posts: 187 |
" he's nothing but a loser trying to reclaim a fame he really never had. "
That goes for alot of people around here, I can tell you that.
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The Ignorance
Registered: Apr 2006
Posts: 85 |
But they lately decreased dramatically... |
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Kater
Account closed
Registered: Oct 2007
Posts: 20 |
Or a lot of ppl here get stalking pm´s from australia... Yeah, thats the right way.... \o/ |
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TWR
Account closed
Registered: Jan 2004
Posts: 187 |
@Kater: Yes. It's the australian way of making sure no one break the "rules"... :-O
@the ignorance: Didn't you leave this database because it was so defiled by retards, lamers and loosers? Anyway, good to have you back. The voting hasn't been the same without you... :-D |
