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Yazoo
Registered: Nov 2006
Posts: 227 |
separate list for one-file demos
as the doty compo shows, it would make sense to have a separate list for one-file demos, and not mix them up with trackmos / multi-part demos.
we now have a top10 which looks a little bit odd. but downvoting the one-part demos (to get them out of the list) is not a good option for me, as some of them are really great and they also deserve to be high on the ranks.
is there any chance that we can have this? :)
/yazoo |
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SIDWAVE
Account closed
Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 2238 |
about this, only new demos in top list..
the best thing would be to have a list for 80s, 90s, 2000s, 2010s..
it doesnt make sense to compare old and new.
REFLEX demos were legendary in 90s, but now its all gone into ubercode, since EOD was realized.. :) |
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Oswald
Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 5020 |
all release types could have it, amount of invested work would be the same. would be nice to have top of the month aswell. |
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Yazoo
Registered: Nov 2006
Posts: 227 |
yes, but the difference is, that there is a one-file demo category already. it only doesnt have its own rankings for whatever reason.
as it is now, the one-part demos could be uploaded as "demo" - and it wouldnt make a real difference |
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Zyron
Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 2381 |
Actually there are separate lists, for everything.
One-file demos f ex:
http://csdb.dk/toplist.php?type=release&subtype=%282%29 |
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11119 |
i actually thought these and the list on the frontpage would be exactly the same.... seems odd to have a difference there =) |
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Oswald
Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 5020 |
Quote: Actually there are separate lists, for everything.
One-file demos f ex:
http://csdb.dk/toplist.php?type=release&subtype=%282%29
indeed, its a design flaw that this is not obvious from the main page. a simple link like "more top stuff" would do. |
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celticdesign
Registered: Oct 2005
Posts: 148 |
What Oswald said \o/ |
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Bob
Registered: Nov 2002
Posts: 71 |
like the idea with more top stuff ;)
our resolutions on monitors and info on web page nowdays fit in so much
more, |
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bepp
Registered: Jun 2010
Posts: 263 |
"Top Demos" is really a combination of category 1 (C64 Demo) and category 2 (C64 One-file demo). You can see it in the url if you click on the heading just above the list.
I guess it should be a piece of c for Perff to just remove this combined list and stack both C64 Demo and C64 One-file demo on top of each other, as it makes little sense having them both in the same list. |
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Radiant
Registered: Sep 2004
Posts: 639 |
Please note that many one file demos are indeed multipart demos (One-Der, Panta Rhei, The Throckmorton Device... Corporis Cumuli...). You could argue that it would be equally unfair to pit those against single-effect demos rated at 9.7 or whatever. |
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ruk
Registered: Jan 2012
Posts: 43 |
what radiantx said |
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Krill
Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 2847 |
Indeed, one-filed/multi-part vs. multi-filed/multi-part demos does not feel as unfair as one-part/one-filed vs. multi-part demos in one chart.
Personally, i have never minded one-filed/multi-part demos such as One-Der or Dawnfall in the top demos list very much, but one-part/one-filed demos up there now feel a lot odder.
I guess it all boils down to effort. Arguably, a single-part demo is generally less effort to make than both single-file and multi-file demos with many parts.
Those are all demos still, but so are 4K demos.
Maybe the Top Demos chart should have a few checkboxes:
[X] single-file
[X] multi-file
[ ] single-part
[X] multi-part
[ ] 4K
Not sure if this is easily done or not with the current database contents, but these are just my 0.02.
Edit: And yes, less than 4K might be called a demo, but i have yet to see a demo smaller than 4K on the C-64 that does not sacrifice one of the three main disciplines that make for a good demo. Usually the music is missing, and most often it's just plain ugly. |
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Oswald
Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 5020 |
A drop down list would work in the place of "Top Demos". then its immediately obvious one can view other sortings. |
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11119 |
i think we should introduce a rule that says "your request will get ignored unless you made a demo last year"
if only half the time thinking about this crap would go into producing something.... |
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Oswald
Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 5020 |
It's just day dreaming, I dont expect this to be done. On demos, I've become tired of all those half assed demos we have put out lately just to release something. I'm in part coding/collecting phase these days. Thanks to X and other great parties and demos (incl yours), my motivation is pretty high. X 14 here I come ;) |
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JackAsser
Registered: Jun 2002
Posts: 1989 |
Quote: It's just day dreaming, I dont expect this to be done. On demos, I've become tired of all those half assed demos we have put out lately just to release something. I'm in part coding/collecting phase these days. Thanks to X and other great parties and demos (incl yours), my motivation is pretty high. X 14 here I come ;)
My hero! <3 |
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TheRyk
Registered: Mar 2009
Posts: 2076 |
Quote: It's just day dreaming, I dont expect this to be done. On demos, I've become tired of all those half assed demos we have put out lately just to release something. I'm in part coding/collecting phase these days. Thanks to X and other great parties and demos (incl yours), my motivation is pretty high. X 14 here I come ;)
Quote:if only half the time thinking about this crap would go into producing something....
Yeah, don't get it either. Though I see some point in Yazoo's suggestion, some of you take all that jazz far too serious. What's all this votes and stats fuzz recently about, ppl downvoting this or that in order to manipulate this or that stat wankin, wtf. Either it's 10 or not - in your opinion. Worrying that sth small might appear in some charts? c'mon, grow up, this ain't some teenage social networking f--kbook site. |
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CRT
Registered: Oct 2012
Posts: 87 |
Quote: about this, only new demos in top list..
the best thing would be to have a list for 80s, 90s, 2000s, 2010s..
it doesnt make sense to compare old and new.
REFLEX demos were legendary in 90s, but now its all gone into ubercode, since EOD was realized.. :)
Excellent thought.
Perhaps a possibility to sort a list for a specific year and that includes +/- one year. Example, a list demos for 89 and that would include years 88 and 90. The rankings would make a lot more sense in a context like that. |
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JackAsser
Registered: Jun 2002
Posts: 1989 |
Quote: Excellent thought.
Perhaps a possibility to sort a list for a specific year and that includes +/- one year. Example, a list demos for 89 and that would include years 88 and 90. The rankings would make a lot more sense in a context like that.
You might wanna try: http://csdb.dk/search/advanced.php
Why not be able to save your search criteria as a personal top-list and use that in the side bar... |
