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bepp
Registered: Jun 2010
Posts: 265 |
Find broken downloads
Is there any query I can do to find entries with broken downloads? I've tried the advanced search but couldn't see "broken download" checkbox. Was thinking of trying to resolve some of them... |
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Moloch
Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 2925 |
Hmm, there was a page years ago that displayed all entries with broken links. Don't have a link anymore and not sure if it still works.
I do know CBA used it to get rid of lots of dead links; maybe he still knows the link? |
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Moloch
Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 2925 |
This isn't the broken link displayer mentioned in the previous post, but you can search comments with it to find the word broken. Came up with quite a few in a quick test
http://csdb.dk/search/comments.php
But still, the original download checker was better |
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Moloch
Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 2925 |
Damn, searched through some old bookmarks file and found it! Strange, only lists 52 entries with broken downloads.
http://csdb.dk/misc/brokenlinks.php |
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jailbird
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1578 |
Considering there are 27 releases which only have external links, that doesn't seem to me as too strange. But maybe the scripts are broken too :) |
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bepp
Registered: Jun 2010
Posts: 265 |
Ah cool page. However, it seems to only check external urls. It doesn't respect the "corrupted file" flag... :-| |
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jailbird
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1578 |
Quote: Ah cool page. However, it seems to only check external urls. It doesn't respect the "corrupted file" flag... :-|
Since most of (if not all) the releases with broken links have internal (i.e. working) download links too, it isn't such a big deal.
Now, what actually could be a problem when the download URLs of those releases that only have external links stop working. So they all need re-uploads to the internal CSDb server. |
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Perff
Administrator
Posts: 1679 |
Here is another link showing corrupted files.
http://csdb.dk/misc/corruptedfiles.php
There have been made some simple DB-extract pages like this over the years when requested by someone, but they are not really documented anywhere.
If you need somthing, just ask like here. :) |
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Moloch
Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 2925 |
Duh, the broken link was used mainly for entries without downloads, remember now. ;) |
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bepp
Registered: Jun 2010
Posts: 265 |
Thanks Perff! While at it, you might want to check your "broken link" algorithm for external urls... Several of the ones I've tried do actually work - although being reported as broken. Examples:
Arcade Football &GD
APIandC64
Is there a problem with DropBox links and redirects perhaps? |
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11364 |
i think the links are only checked once in a while, thats why status is wrong sometimes. also obviously if the server doesnt provide a proper reply, but serves some placeholder something instead, then it cant be checked. |
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Perff
Administrator
Posts: 1679 |
Quoting beppThanks Perff! While at it, you might want to check your "broken link" algorithm for external urls... Several of the ones I've tried do actually work - although being reported as broken. Examples:
Arcade Football &GD
APIandC64
Is there a problem with DropBox links and redirects perhaps?
When the check algorithm was made dropbox didn't exists. :) At least I didn' know about it.
And yes, there have been problems with a few sites which dosn't return the classic way of letting me know link is valid.
Can't remember exactly how it is implemented.
This is also why the text says: "Link might be broken" and not "Link is broken". :) |
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11364 |
that said, cant we just disable external links for downloads? does it even still make sense to have them? (other than 10 years ago, when disk space and/or db size might have been an issue) |
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Count Zero
Registered: Jan 2003
Posts: 1927 |
I somewhat second "no external links" BUT would request that users are allowed to upload larger files than currently. (For e.g. Manual PDF files and alike) |
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bepp
Registered: Jun 2010
Posts: 265 |
What Count 0 said.
But some tools that gets updated frequently like Pixcen might get into trouble. |
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Doc Strange
Registered: Feb 2002
Posts: 101 |
Effectively, external stuffs can be linked on the summaries section, like pdf manuals and so on. |
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11364 |
bepp: infact the contrary is true - those entries shouldnt get updated with new versions in the first place. |
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bepp
Registered: Jun 2010
Posts: 265 |
I somehow expected that comment from you, gpz ;-)
While I agree with you in general (for C64-releases) I'm not sure the same should apply for 'other platform tools', which might have frequent releases. I'd hate to see csdb bloated with versions of versions of 'other tools'... :-| |
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spider-j
Registered: Oct 2004
Posts: 498 |
I think other platform releases should only have one single entry without direct Downloads at all, but instead have a link to their Webpage. Would imho be adequate - at least for the projects that are still alive (i.e. VICE, 64tass etc.).
For dead projects the last version could be added as download to csdb. |
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iAN CooG
Registered: May 2002
Posts: 3187 |
the external sites often disappears, and bye bye external link to the tool. Upload it here and forget where it was from. Use rar or 7z split archive, with 1mb splits. |
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chatGPZ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11364 |
Quote:I'd hate to see csdb bloated with versions of versions of 'other tools'
not sure if thats worse than a dozen cracks of some barely interesting game though =P |
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TheRyk
Registered: Mar 2009
Posts: 2220 |
Actually, I frequently find it misleading to use external links and then update the other platform tool = target of link, for instance, without adding any new version release entry to CSDb (or at least some kind of comment in outdated version's entry). If there is version 1.y on external link but if I check here and find latest version 1.x, I wouldn't bother leeching external link...
Since there is "website [containing more information about this release]", I would not miss external downloads. If no or no working internal download is there, I'd check that website.
And okay, if site is really down, sb could just up an internal link, right? |
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Rough
Account closed
Registered: Feb 2002
Posts: 1829 |
intros.c64.org down today |
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iAN CooG
Registered: May 2002
Posts: 3187 |
most of sites on c64.org are down since wednesday 26 at least, must wait for Slaygon, he's trying to get everything back online ASAP. |
