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2009-03-09 13:00
breeze
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Duplicate scener name

Hi!

I am a novice at CSDb. I found that scener Breeze is already registered in CSDb. As i understand this man from Australia, and I am from Belarus. And his works does not have relations to me.

Therefore, the question how best to proceed ? Register another scener with nick breeze and specify a different crew, or as something to another?

Many thanks in advance.

p.s. prefering to ask, before i do something wrong ;)
2009-03-09 13:09
assiduous
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Registered: Jun 2007
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yes create a new scener entry.

also tell us sth about the c64 scene in Belarus. do you know any other people from your contry having an interest in the c64 ?
2009-03-09 13:25
jailbird

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1578
Indeed interesting. I only know Raver from that region. The strong Russian ZX scene always fascinated me, and I was wondering how come the C64 wasn't so popular there as the speccy.
2009-03-09 14:13
Sander

Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 493
@Jailbird, here's a read on that: http://www.8bittoday.com/articles/11/russian-speccy-demoscene-h..

It should answer your question.
2009-03-09 14:28
jailbird

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1578
Hm, quite the same situation with hardware/CPU revisions in Poland, Hungary, ex-Czech-Slovakia or ex-Yugoslavia, still the C64 scene had prevailed in these countries. I was wondering a lot about Romania (know only Mihai) and Bulgaria too.
OK, waiting for Oswaldbogár to bitch about the topic. Then I'll know more.
2009-03-09 14:38
Jetboy

Registered: Jul 2006
Posts: 289
AFAIK access to goods from western countries was much easier in Poland than in Russia back then. Definetely was easier in Hungary. I don't know about other countries.
2009-03-09 14:44
Sander

Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 493
I recall this topic was addressed before here: Eastern european scene before 1989?
2009-03-09 14:47
breeze
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Quote: yes create a new scener entry.

also tell us sth about the c64 scene in Belarus. do you know any other people from your contry having an interest in the c64 ?


thanks, I will do it.

I don't think that in Belarus there are at least a semblance of the scene at C64. On the territory of ex-USSR was distributed more ZX-Spectrum clones.

But interest in this platform is present, first of all because C64 is originate demoscene, new and original graphics and excelent music.

Together with riskej we want to gather all interested in the ex-USSR on the site http://c64-live.untergrund.net/ At this stage there only news, but we will fill the translation of materials into Russian.

Perhaps with the launch of sites we can find more people interested in the platform C64.
2009-03-10 08:44
mikme

Registered: Dec 2007
Posts: 5
Quote: @Jailbird, here's a read on that: http://www.8bittoday.com/articles/11/russian-speccy-demoscene-h..

It should answer your question.


i live in Russia and we just haven't real c64 machines, but speccy machines were really handmade, especially "pentagon" (i have it), "scorpion", "profi" and other clones.

now i have real c64 and really happy because i love c64-scene. and now i'm working on some c64-pictures.
2009-03-10 10:38
Jetboy

Registered: Jul 2006
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Any links to your speccy productions?
2009-03-10 13:00
breeze
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Quote: Any links to your speccy productions?

last prod of riskej or that ?

latest prods from fishbone crew for pentagon 1024 SL 2.2:

http://pouet.net/prod.php?which=49442
http://pouet.net/prod.php?which=49575
2009-03-10 13:13
Sander

Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 493
@riskej, Cool! I heard about your C64 (krill, elfh etc :) and that you're actively doing gfx now. Looking forward to your productions!
2009-03-10 17:45
Matt

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 598
yeah really nice graphics on both those releases. I'm looking forward to see c64 gfx from you!
2009-03-10 17:55
chatGPZ

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11352
yeah some nice hires gfx there... will be interisting what you can create with 16 shades of brown =P
2009-03-11 06:15
mikme

Registered: Dec 2007
Posts: 5
Quote: Any links to your speccy productions?

here is my speccy gfx:
http://simbols.untergrund.net/riskej/inde222x.html

here is my speccy msx:
http://zxtunes.com/author.php?id=290&ln=eng
2009-03-11 07:55
Mace

Registered: May 2002
Posts: 1799
My eyes are bleeding from the harsh colours of the ZX, but I do have to admit that those are very fine graphics! :)
2009-03-11 08:24
Sander

Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 493
Quote: here is my speccy gfx:
http://simbols.untergrund.net/riskej/inde222x.html

here is my speccy msx:
http://zxtunes.com/author.php?id=290&ln=eng


Wow, some very good stuff there!
2009-03-11 09:38
Oswald

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 5086
Quote: here is my speccy gfx:
http://simbols.untergrund.net/riskej/inde222x.html

here is my speccy msx:
http://zxtunes.com/author.php?id=290&ln=eng


truly awesome, wondering how that style would look like using c64 hires mode :)
2009-03-11 09:42
chatGPZ

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 11352
brown? \o/
2009-03-11 13:31
jailbird

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1578
Quote: truly awesome, wondering how that style would look like using c64 hires mode :)

Well not exactly the best examples, but take a look at Spectral.
And we usually complain about the radioactive, harsh tones of ZX, whilst the Speccy guys lament about the washed up, dull colors on the 64. But I guess it's just the habit.
Personally, my eyesight always dies a little after looking on those painful RGB glares, but of course I must admit the high level of technical skills to achieve something like Riskej did. Truly awesome. And makes me wonder what kind of magic would he be able to bring out from C64 hi-res.
2009-03-11 17:42
Steppe

Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 1510


Riskeydude, you rock so hard. I'm not worthy.
2009-03-11 18:05
jailbird

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1578
Hey, Da Vinci had a painting named Jailbird? Awesome :D

By the way, as far as I'm aware, the above pictures are in some kind of an interlaced mode called Gigascreen, am i rite?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ZX_Spectrum_graphic_modes#GigaScre..

Not so sure, but it more or less matches the Wikipedia description.
2009-03-11 18:39
breeze
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Quote: Well not exactly the best examples, but take a look at Spectral.
And we usually complain about the radioactive, harsh tones of ZX, whilst the Speccy guys lament about the washed up, dull colors on the 64. But I guess it's just the habit.
Personally, my eyesight always dies a little after looking on those painful RGB glares, but of course I must admit the high level of technical skills to achieve something like Riskej did. Truly awesome. And makes me wonder what kind of magic would he be able to bring out from C64 hi-res.


Dudes! Let's stop discussion dignity and disadvantages C64 and the ZX-Spectrum.

You are asked show our works, we did it. As there is no works for the C64 platform yet, we demonstrated works for zx-spectrum. When we create something for C64, we'll let you know ;)
2009-03-11 19:57
jailbird

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1578
Quoting breeze
Dudes! Let's stop discussion dignity and disadvantages C64 and the ZX-Spectrum.

Relax, that definitely wasn't an intention of mine :) I just mentioned one of the funny ways about how we look on the attributes of each others' computers (in this case the colors).
As I see it, the majority of us have a general judgment of the scene as a whole, and enjoy fine products regardless of platforms. The small discussions we have about the possibilities of our machines are just cute, sometimes even informative :) Then again, I've seen some lunatic platform-nazis in my lifetime, even parting the grounds of different 8bit Commodore brands. :)
And I'd honestly love to see C64 releases from Spectrum guys! Always seemed to me that they have a diverse approach to direction/design, and have some really fresh ideas. It would be interesting to experience new C64 productions with a bit different stance.
2009-03-11 20:21
Jetboy

Registered: Jul 2006
Posts: 289
Kickass!

Btw. Funny things happen when you open sideborders while displaying hires graphics. I don't remember exactly what it was, but stumbled on it while working on Obornik.
2009-03-11 20:34
Archmage

Registered: Aug 2006
Posts: 185
Damn! riskej: please do some c64 stuff!
2009-03-12 05:25
mikme

Registered: Dec 2007
Posts: 5
Quote: Hey, Da Vinci had a painting named Jailbird? Awesome :D

By the way, as far as I'm aware, the above pictures are in some kind of an interlaced mode called Gigascreen, am i rite?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ZX_Spectrum_graphic_modes#GigaScre..

Not so sure, but it more or less matches the Wikipedia description.


yeah, you're right - the above pictures are in gigascreen mode - two standard hi-res speccy pictures switches per one frame.
and they can be displayed only on zx spectrum 128.

currently only i'm and pheel (http://zpixel.by.ru/galleries/authors/pheel/gal2.html) made pictures in this mode, because of difficulties - we haven't good gfx editor for this mode.

and i'm admire of various c64 gfx modes and of graphicians! like jailbird ;) mirage, electric, sander, leon and others. really the strongest graphicians.

and my picture with "Jailbird - Da Vinci" - it's my respect to you and whole c64-scene. from russia and zx with love to you! he-he.
2009-03-12 10:07
mikme

Registered: Dec 2007
Posts: 5
Quote: Damn! riskej: please do some c64 stuff!

this is my further plan! i have some sketches for now and try to finish it! and i really love c64 palette and gfx!
2009-03-12 12:18
Conrad

Registered: Nov 2006
Posts: 847
You really have great pixel talent, riskej! :) I can't wait to see what you can do with C64 graphics... also it's great to witness a Russian C64 scene still alive in some way! Alan Group was one group at least, but it's great to see others (especially young ones like yourself).

Keep it up, and can't wait to hear some more C64 music from you too. :)
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