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2004-11-04 13:34
Morpheus

Registered: Feb 2004
Posts: 152
Get files back on a formatted disk

I wonder, what was the name of that program were you could get files back on a formatted disk. I need to rescue some files before they fade away...
2004-11-04 15:43
Krill

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 2855
that only works with soft-formatted disks, that is, those formatted without id, where just the dir track is initialized. check the latest dir-master versions, there are some with that feature.
2004-11-05 07:38
drake
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yep, dirmaster 7 is one of those programs that could help you. it was an extended version done by erol/tempest as far as i can remember.
2004-11-05 08:30
Oswald

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 5030
heh one of those tools saved my life when coding plastic kiss, I've almost lost my workdisk due to a fuckin buggin track 18. but be aware, you wont get the filenames back :) back then took me about an hour to find out what files are what, and that same got still lost.
2004-11-05 12:06
Graham
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Posts: 990
afaik only the first block of the directory is deleted so you only have lost the names of the first 8 files.
2004-11-05 12:23
Oswald

Registered: Apr 2002
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not in my case, it was not about formatting the disk, but loosing the whole dir due to buggy track 18.
2004-11-05 12:56
Ben
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A bit of a coarse method, I admit, but you can ofcourse always trace back the files by following the Track/Sector links and making an inventory of those..
2004-11-05 13:51
Graham
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@Oswald: c'mon, you're always able to read a few sectors on a buggy track if it hasn't been formatted.
2004-11-05 14:00
Oswald

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 5030
graham: didnt had the nerves to search for a t/s monitor and play with it. I have not much experience in that.
2004-11-05 14:26
Morpheus

Registered: Feb 2004
Posts: 152
dirmaster 7 - okey - thanks. I'll check that one out. Where can I find it?

Though I remember some other program from the past that I THINK could rescue files with a disk that had been formatted with the N0: way.
2004-11-05 21:10
TDJ

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1879
Dir make-up (DMU) by the Whiz-zards association is the program I always used to do stuff like this. Best damn disk-manager/editor ever.
2004-11-06 11:32
Graham
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the best dir editor is a machine code monitor able to read and write sectors. no restrictions :)
2004-11-06 14:08
iopop

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 317
Disk Wizard 2.0 by H.J Rottkemper also have the deformat function.

That is if you have softformatted the disk. Far too many times Ive done @n:<filename> instead of @s:<filename> and all times disk wizard have saved me.
2004-11-08 08:06
Morpheus

Registered: Feb 2004
Posts: 152
Quote: Disk Wizard 2.0 by H.J Rottkemper also have the deformat function.

That is if you have softformatted the disk. Far too many times Ive done @n:<filename> instead of @s:<filename> and all times disk wizard have saved me.


Can you send me the program?

TDJ: Can you send me Dir make-up?
2004-11-08 10:51
Krill

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 2855
Quote: the best dir editor is a machine code monitor able to read and write sectors. no restrictions :)

yet, nobody could be arsed to search and analyze the t/s links of a whole disk manually to restore a directory =)
2004-11-08 11:17
Graham
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@Krill: there is atleast one program for that. i remember an old 1986 basic tool called "backtracker" or something. it took ages... i remember speeding it up with a basic compiler, but still it used standard serial routines so it was very slow.
2004-11-08 13:17
TDJ

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1879
If I remember correctly, dir make up did just that .. analyzed the disk and came up with a number of possible files. I still have 1 or 2 disks with the results of such an action ..
2004-11-08 16:01
j0x

Registered: Mar 2004
Posts: 215
I also did a program like that recently, after some tamper-protected program cleared a dir-sector on me. I was lazy and did it in C to work on a .d64 image on a PC.

IIRC it tells you the first block (i.e. an unreferenced block) of each chain, and reports any chain collisions (i.e. two or more sectors each referring to the same sector). I believe sector loops (of arbitrary length) are also detected. On a disk containing colliding sector chains, any program that doesn't allow the user to pick the correct chain is likely to fail.

Since it was done as a quick hack to save me the trouble of going through the disk manually, it's not particularly user friendly.... (*ahem*) E.g. you have to reconstruct the dir sector(s) yourself from the info provided by the program.

If you're able to convert the disk to a .d64 file, it may be of some use, though.
2004-11-09 07:24
iopop

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 317
Quote: Can you send me the program?

TDJ: Can you send me Dir make-up?


You can grab Disk Wizard 2.0 here;

http://www.ftp.funet.fi/pub/cbm/c64/diskutil/directory/Disc%20W..
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