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Oswald
Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 5086 |
Floppy '05
Is it really not allowed to release a product if the creators are not present personally ? If so whats the freakin idea ? |
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TDJ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1879 |
Quote: Is it really not allowed to release a product if the creators are not present personally ? If so whats the freakin idea ?
In the old days this was quite common (I even 'joined' House Designs on TP4 so I could enter their demo - which then became last), and I guess the organizers of Floppy realize there will be enough 'creators' present anyway to warrant an active compo. |
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Oswald
Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 5086 |
So, the rule can be easily shortcutted, I just have to have someone into our group for the time of the party... Anyway its a stupid rule IMHO. Times changed since tp4.
Also Im sure the compo wont be the same with/without a resource production.(tunels are 4ever;) Its lame to kill activity by rules like this. I had a sudden impulse to make something cute for floppy, then heard about this rule. Sounds like an oldschool elitist attitude. If I dont have time/money to get there, then also my production/energy spent for the scene/party is not welcome ? |
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Nightlord
Account closed
Registered: Jan 2003
Posts: 131 |
i have mixed feelings about this rule. on one hand i respect the organisers decision and i do think that if e-mail entries were allowed then eventually floppy would be no different than any other party. it is a rigid gettogether and a rigid deadline. and that is what makes it special. i do not think the intention is to be discriminative against anyone.
however being someone who barely missed the party due to errors in paperwork completely out of my own control, i can't help but feel left out. it is not equally easy for scandinavian/european sceners and me to make my way to the party.
as a result this rule makes my life definitely harder but i think it should stay the way it is |
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Hate Bush
Registered: Jul 2002
Posts: 461 |
Quote: So, the rule can be easily shortcutted, I just have to have someone into our group for the time of the party... Anyway its a stupid rule IMHO. Times changed since tp4.
Also Im sure the compo wont be the same with/without a resource production.(tunels are 4ever;) Its lame to kill activity by rules like this. I had a sudden impulse to make something cute for floppy, then heard about this rule. Sounds like an oldschool elitist attitude. If I dont have time/money to get there, then also my production/energy spent for the scene/party is not welcome ?
> Its lame to kill activity by rules like this
It's probably on purpose, so you could have a chance to read "nobody makes demos anymore", or some similar statement, later. |
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Dane
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Registered: May 2002
Posts: 421 |
Quote: > Its lame to kill activity by rules like this
It's probably on purpose, so you could have a chance to read "nobody makes demos anymore", or some similar statement, later.
Not much worth watching at least. |
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Dipswitch
Registered: Apr 2004
Posts: 42 |
it's as sign of weakness if the organizers of a party accept email entries. that means that they fear that there will be not enough people present to guaranteem good compos. if a party is strong enough it should be possible to have good compos with just the participants who are physically present. plus, i mean, hey that's the spirit! going at a party to actually deliver something! else there would be no difference between parties and online compos... |
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CreaMD
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 3048 |
Quote: it's as sign of weakness if the organizers of a party accept email entries. that means that they fear that there will be not enough people present to guaranteem good compos. if a party is strong enough it should be possible to have good compos with just the participants who are physically present. plus, i mean, hey that's the spirit! going at a party to actually deliver something! else there would be no difference between parties and online compos...
You should call things the right names. Greediness it is. And now please send all your entries to my e-mail, thank you. |
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hollowman
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 474 |
Quote: > Its lame to kill activity by rules like this
It's probably on purpose, so you could have a chance to read "nobody makes demos anymore", or some similar statement, later.
yeah, with 13 demos last year, with the same rule.
head over to 'ye olde clue shoppe' will you..
and why is this rule suddenly such a problem, its nothing new |
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drake
Account closed
Registered: Dec 2002
Posts: 207 |
what about some parties were you can only found some ppl with their laptops, converting their music and demos to a 5 1/4 inch disk and all those other ppl sending their wares via email and almost no activity on the party self. THAT is a party
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Cruzer
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1048 |
Breakpoint didn't have that rule last year. |
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hollowman
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 474 |
Quote: Breakpoint didn't have that rule last year.
the topic of this discussion is 'floppy 05', and floppy has had this rule before. i dont think breakpoints rules has anything to do with this |
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drake
Account closed
Registered: Dec 2002
Posts: 207 |
i shouldn't have any problems with this rule. inform yourself about the rules of a party. just send your nice demo or whatever to another party... problem fixed! |
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hollowman
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 474 |
[21:41] <Jucke> <no comment> |
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Frantic
Registered: Mar 2003
Posts: 1646 |
I can only agree with the artful rulesmiths of Floppy. The very same rule has applied to all the LCP's I've organized too so my opinion on this issue should be clear.
There are lots of reasons for this. Use your imagination!
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TDJ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1879 |
Quote: I can only agree with the artful rulesmiths of Floppy. The very same rule has applied to all the LCP's I've organized too so my opinion on this issue should be clear.
There are lots of reasons for this. Use your imagination!
So is it because the first prizes are sex with the organizers, and you guys don't want to travel all the way over Europe just for a quick shag?
Just using my imagination dude .. |
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CreaMD
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 3048 |
I know one bad thing about this.. polish scene problem... isolation... Although their isolation had different reasons. |
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Slator
Registered: Jan 2002
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Anyway, the rules are cool as they are. BE there and live the spirit, email-entry is for wankers anyway. Someone has to keep old habbits at least ;-D
There are dozens of parties which allow it, participate there then.
No smell - no party! |
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Oswald
Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 5086 |
Probably I "dont" have a _reason_ not visiting floppy. I really just want to have some good wanks at home isntead. Guess I fear of having to shag organizers if my demo reaches top 3. Its natural that releasing a demo is more fun if being present = its not wanking that keeps me away.
With this rule you dont earn more visitors, just loose a few compo entrys. IMHO |
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yago
Registered: May 2002
Posts: 333 |
One thing for sure: A party without a Resource demo is not as good as a party with a Resource demo.
But not accepting eMail-entries is a good idea, because a party is not just the Demo-Competition, but also the people and the atmosphere.
Having coders doing last-minute-fixes for the deadline just belongs to a party.
If you are that desperate to release something at floppy, do a coop-demo!
PS: Dont be afraid of orgas! Sometimes you only need to shake hands and grab the money :-)
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T.M.R
Account closed
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 749 |
Quote: Anyway, the rules are cool as they are. BE there and live the spirit, email-entry is for wankers anyway. Someone has to keep old habbits at least ;-D
There are dozens of parties which allow it, participate there then.
No smell - no party!
Oy, i've only ever entered one compo whilst i was there and i'm not a... erm... okay, forget i spoke. =-) |
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Celtic
Administrator
Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 807 |
do what tdj did, join a group of someone who is there, or let someone join resource for a few days. Problem solved... |
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CreaMD
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 3048 |
Okay... I think I would like to join some group who would attend Floppy in order to release my pseudoscene production in the music compo. Anyone interested? Drop me a PM. |
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TDJ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1879 |
Quote: Okay... I think I would like to join some group who would attend Floppy in order to release my pseudoscene production in the music compo. Anyone interested? Drop me a PM.
Maybe you could join Resource.
Oh no, wait .. |
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TDJ
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1879 |
Quote: do what tdj did, join a group of someone who is there, or let someone join resource for a few days. Problem solved...
Ofcourse it does create a new problem: should I add House Designs to my name in csdb or not? Hmmm ... |
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drake
Account closed
Registered: Dec 2002
Posts: 207 |
so, a group who wants to participate in every party don't need only a talented coder but also some talented partypeople in their group who want to support and to spread the stuff. welcome back swapperscene!!!! |
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Slator
Registered: Jan 2002
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Quote: so, a group who wants to participate in every party don't need only a talented coder but also some talented partypeople in their group who want to support and to spread the stuff. welcome back swapperscene!!!!
easy as that, just go to the party and enjoy or gimme a lifetime-vip-membership of systembolaget and I will hand-in whatever you like.... |
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jailbird
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 1578 |
CreaMD: no need for joining, man. All you have to do is to pretend that you're Oswald and problem solved. Of course to avoid suspicious looks, that would include heavy drug use and crossdressing. But hey, look on the positive side: Resource will release something on *Floppy* ! Priceless!
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Britelite
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 51 |
Quote: so, a group who wants to participate in every party don't need only a talented coder but also some talented partypeople in their group who want to support and to spread the stuff. welcome back swapperscene!!!!
Yeah, and a group needs a lot of members and friends to vote for their demo at smaller parties =) |
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HCL
Registered: Feb 2003
Posts: 727 |
CAR SEAT WANTED. If someone has got some free space in his/her car heading for FLOPPY2005, i would be really happy to share your expences. I'm tired of carrying my *hardware* on the train, and believe me, the *hardware* is tired of it as well. Anyone, please !? :)
Oh, yeah.. I'm living in Linköping, so if you are living somewhere north of me (Norrköping, Stockholm, Umeå etc..) that would work as well.
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Dane
Account closed
Registered: May 2002
Posts: 421 |
I'll just copy HCL then - car seat wanted! :D |
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hollowman
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 474 |
we're gonna need a bigger car... |
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WVL
Registered: Mar 2002
Posts: 896 |
Quote: we're gonna need a bigger car...
or smaller sceners.. |
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HCL
Registered: Feb 2003
Posts: 727 |
Hmm.. sounds like we should arrange a bus trip, just like in the old days :)). Could someone with a license hire a mini-bus is Stockholm and pick up all the lost sceners and diskdrives along the road to H-town!? Last time my c128 went on the train to Floppy, my SID burned. Or it might as well have been because of the unstable voltage at the party place ;). Also my *floppy* has always been extra sensitive to train rides. Please, someone feel the urge! :D
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Nightlord
Account closed
Registered: Jan 2003
Posts: 131 |
would it be possible for me to join the ride back to stockholm. it seems i will come to kastrup and return from stockholm on monday. so if you guys arrange a bus trip between stockholm and helsinborg i would like to join. |
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hollowman
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 474 |
i was just on the phone with wiggen, who agreed on the plan
of hiring a minibus which will travel from stockholm to
helsingborg, passing through norrköping and linköping.
I assume that hcl and dane wants a seat each, or
do you want to share one ? |
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Dane
Account closed
Registered: May 2002
Posts: 421 |
I'd take a seat for myself - well, depending on what HCL has to say about this. Or rather, what his girlfriend says about it. |
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HCL
Registered: Feb 2003
Posts: 727 |
Ok, according to my girlfriend i'll have my own seat, so i guess that's it. Great of you to organize this! Please come back with a rough timeplan when you know.. The cost is not relevant since it's already yummie yummie for my precious *hardware* :).
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hollowman
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 474 |
ok, i will provide more information when it is available, until then you can use the website http://www.baitbus.com (not worksafe) as substitute |
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VoDKa
Registered: Dec 2001
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Johey is also checking the cost for a minibus. Do I smell a data-race down to Helltown? :-) |
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Dwangi
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 130 |
Does anyone know any cheap hotells in helsingborg? |
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HCL
Registered: Feb 2003
Posts: 727 |
Read the message: Be data, skip the hotel!! |
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Zyron
Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 2381 |
According to the news HCL is already released in Helsingborg :) |
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Nightlord
Account closed
Registered: Jan 2003
Posts: 131 |
ok after seeing the baitbus i am scared :)
no i found a flight from kastrup so ignore my previous message for being a candidate for the bus trip
now crossing fingers for the visa |
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HCL
Registered: Feb 2003
Posts: 727 |
2 weeks to go now!! Hollowman, start linking your demo today already, and it will become much better!! ;) |
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hollowman
Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 474 |
hcl, much better than what? crap?=) if so i rather relax for another two weeks. and tell dane to drop out of school so you can spank us in the compo again |
